> beyond a consulting context

"Consulting, if you're not a part of the solution there's money to be made prolonging the problem" - Despair.com :)

/i'm a consultant

Fair point, hadn't looked at it that way.

(Edit: Word of warning though, my father was a bricklayer and he also screamed at his kids whenever he came home overworked. I'm not saying I know the answer here but every job has its "they don't pay me enough for this shit")

>Ya I get the need but you miss the point - no, you can't pay me anymore to wade into that and own risk, beyond a consulting context with low skin in the game.

In a situation of triage, "owning risk" is off the table.