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by Gagarin19175 hours ago |
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upvoteby rambambram4 hours ago|
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Shorts are pushed on the homepage and in the sidebar. At least in the UI that I see in Firefox desktop.

I sometimes wonder if other people get other UIs than I do. There's technically nothing stopping them from 'tailoring' the UI for different people.

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upvoteby Gander57394 hours ago|
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They play on app startup on the android app, at least for me.
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upvoteby biggestfan3 hours ago|
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That happens if you close the app while on a Short. Otherwise it opens to the homepage.
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upvoteby Gander57393 hours ago|
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I don't watch shorts. I have them disabled via morphe.
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upvoteby pyreko4 hours ago|
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Ehhhh not recently. They have an entire shorts section on my subscription page now, and shorts are _heavily_ pushed on my home page feed despite me trying to dismiss them multiple times.

Like yes I can hide them all using ublock on desktop and morphe on Android, but that the fact I have to do it to avoid them is because they're pushing shorts harder as of late, it used to also be pushed but not as much from my personal experience.

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upvoteby Gagarin19174 hours ago|
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>They have an entire shorts section on my subscription page now

Because the people you subscribe to are making those shorts.

Your subscription page shows you all the most recent videos from the channels you’re subscribed to.

That in no way is shoving anything down your throat. You’re just supposed to watch what you want to watch. You’re not expected to click and watch every video in your subscription feed.

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upvoteby pyreko3 hours ago|
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Right but before they _didn't_ have an entire dang section for shorts lol. It's near the very top too, so I literally could not avoid seeing it. If they treated it as a normal video I wouldn't care as much.

And unfortunately many YouTubers who do make normal, good content also make shorts because it's incredibly algorithm-friendly, so there's no avoiding it unless you blacklist every creator that dares make shorts.

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upvoteby pyreko3 hours ago|
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It's also near the very top of the home feed too - it's even above videos for me, the only thing on top of it is ongoing livestreams. So if I want to use the feed, I have to scroll through a giant shorts section. Then its a row of videos, and then it's another row of just shorts. Again, I DO NOT WATCH SHORTS, but YT really wants me to watch them from the looks of it.

Of course, I then see one row of videos and then the damn "YouTube Playable" section so maybe the moral of the story is that the main page is unusable outright.

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upvoteby Gagarin19171 hours ago|
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>Right but before they _didn't_ have an entire dang section for shorts

An “entire section” isn’t “shoving” something down your throat. You literally don’t even have to process that part of the site with your brain.

When you go to Amazon are you just completely overwhelmed by all the stuff they’re “shoving down your throat”? I mean they have tons of sections on the home page. Are you actually bothered by that or are do you simply search for what you want like everyone else?

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upvoteby kotaKat4 hours ago|
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You click the button to hide the card of Shorts on the home page and it just says

We'll show you fewer Shorts on Home

Not "no more", but "fewer". Which means you don't get a choice, YouTube will still shove them down your throat.

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upvoteby Gagarin19174 hours ago|
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That’s not shoving them down anyone’s throats.

If you don’t want to watch a short, don’t click on it. Just like if you don’t want to watch a video about a certain topic, you don’t click on it.

Seeing that they exist is in no way an inconvenience or annoyance. You’re supposed to just watch what you want.

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upvoteby greenchair2 hours ago|
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Sure it is Sundar. When I go to youtube i see a few videos in the top half. The bottom half of screen is a row of Shorts that I don't want and have to scroll past. In a normal world there'd be a profile setting that lets you opt-out of Shorts being shown. In a normal world there wouldn't be a fake 'show fewer shorts' button that does absolutely nothing.
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upvoteby Gagarin19171 hours ago|
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In a normal world people just scroll past the things they aren’t looking for without even processing the stuff they don’t want.

It’s extremely easy to never click on a Short. I don’t understand the emotional response to these things at all. I’m sure there’s tons of normal videos you don’t want to watch that’s you simply scroll past that don’t elicit emotion whatsoever.

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