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I still install it and play with it for a bit every other year. I really appreciate that it's held true to its own core. Yes it works with Wayland now, but it's still using its e-foundation libraries. I still wish I had screenshots of my desktop from 1998/1999. Downloading cool software from Freshmeat, hitting up Slashdot (news for nerds... stuff that matters) to see what was going on. Kinda wish I was into IRC back then but I was more of an ICQ->AIM chatter. It's an era I wish we could have back.
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Enlightenment always had a pretty weird value proposition. In the very beginning, there was "fvwm-xpm" and early "E" prototypes. They were graphically crazy with a heavy focus on shaped Windows. There's still nothing quite like that weird steampunk/Brazil-ish theme they had. Probably for a reason.

Then they went both visually rather tame and scope-creepy (own graphical libraries etc.). At the beginning I was hoping that we'd get some kind of Amiga-influenced design sensibilities on X (basically a more "artsy" MUI), but that never manifested.

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Yeah, I got introduced to it via some friends that were former Amiga users.
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In '99 or so, I ran Enlightenment with Amiga-style draggable virtual desktops. As a former Amiga user, it made me very happy.
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Yeah, I saw that back in the day, and it's great, but that was too faithful. I liked the eye candy of Enlightenment, but with a nod to the nostalgia...

There is still a lot of things I miss from the Amiga, but I'm acutely aware that a lot of what I wish for are based on rather rose-tinted memories.

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I feel you. Same reason I don't use amiwm.

  > There is still a lot of things I miss from the Amiga, but I'm acutely aware that a lot of what I wish for are based on rather rose-tinted memories.
Yes! I have often wondered what it would be like trying to daily drive an OS4 amiga for modern stuff. I suspect it probably wouldn't be super awesome, mainly due to lack of software for modern things. But I'd really like to try it - if only I could run OS4 on an x86 PC*. I would definitely try it out.

(* yes, I know I can run it in an emulator, but that's not the same)

One thing I'd particularly love to see is something like ARexx adopted in modern OS's and software. It would be super-useful to have most applications expose something like an arexx port, would make a lot of cool things very easy to do.

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The odd thing is that a lot of Linux software does have Dbus support, but it somehow feels like the barrier is a lot higher and buy-in a lot worse. Just throwing together ad-hoc scripts w/dbus feels like it has a higher barrier.

Datatypes is another obvious one - present-day Amiga's can support modern image formats in apps that haven't seen updates for 25+ years...

I recently added hacky assigns to my (very hacky) little shell, as an experiment, as it's one of those features that feels like it's "just" link symlinks setting an environment variable to a path, but as it turns out it really is a lot more ergonomic (to me at least).

I've settled on a tiling wm w/one floating desktop to sort-of emulate how I typically used my Amiga screens, and that I like.

> if only I could run OS4 on an x86 PC*. I would definitely try it out.

AROS would be the closest thing. E.g. AROS One (a distribution)

https://sites.google.com/view/arosone

It's been many years since I spent any time on AROS, so I don't know what it's like at the moment. Back then I could boot the Linux-hosted version of AROS with a startup-sequence that booted straight into FrexxEd (editor w/extensive AREXX support co-written by the author of Curl) faster than a default install of Emacs would start on the same machine.

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You make a good point about dbus. It is sooooort of similar if you squint. But I think both your points are correct. I feel like the buy-in factor is probably the big one - I think if there was lots of buy in the tooling would probably get easier.

How did I not think of datatypes? Yeah, omg they were do great. I'll never forget my amazement when I installed one (I think for jpeg) and now just everything supported jpeg.

I think IIRC beos did something similar to that.

Oh yeah I've seen AROS, but like you I haven't actually fired it up in a long time. The last time I did it was "Amiga Research Operating System".

I just noticed on their wikipedia:

  there is also an ARM port for the Raspberry Pi series
That sounds like a good excuse to break out one of these pis I have sitting around!
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Moksha (a fork of e17) is the main desktop for Bodhi Linux, an unofficial Ubuntu-based distro:

https://www.bodhilinux.com/moksha-desktop/

https://github.com/JeffHoogland/moksha

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AV Linux uses Enlightenment 0.27.1. The creator of that distribution also offers a version based on Moksha 0.4.2, the E17 fork mentioned elsewhere in this thread.

https://www.bandshed.net/

Latest Version Release Announcement:

https://www.bandshed.net/2026/03/01/av-linux-and-mx-moksha-2...

A few more details from and older release announcement:

"Both ISO’s are built on an MX Linux 25/Debian Trixie base with Liquorix kernels."

https://www.bandshed.net/2025/11/27/av-linux-and-mx-moksha-2...

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I still use Windowmaker in places like VNC desktops where GDM gets grumpy and breaks a lot of the functionality. It also works much better over X displays on high latency networks like the Internet, where it is using the X drawing primitives as intended instead of constantly doing client side rendering and blitting the results over.
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I was also a huge fan of WindowMaker. Simple, effective, stylish without getting in the way. Also allowed me to have a vertical taskbar, which I stuck with even on Windows until Win11 has taken that from me - because Mac is the arbiter of taste and everyone must copy it.
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MacOS definitely lets you put the dock wherever you prefer.
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in fact most professionals I know who use mac prefer the dock on the left or right side
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Win 11 has some niceties, however many of those could have been provided on Windows 10 as well, for example the security stuff like VBS and secured kernel were already available, even if disabled by default.
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Oh man, that takes me back.

shell=C:\LiteStep\litestep.exe

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Funny, I was also one of those people who switched from E to WindowMaker. At the time I had no idea it resembled NeXTStep, but it was great.

After that I changed to KDE 3 which was a major milestone at the time. I think GNOME at the time was technically superior though.

Then shortly after I realized that desktop on Linux wasn't really going anywhere, so I switched to macOS (OS X at the time).

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> At the time I had no idea it resembled NeXTStep, but it was great.

I used (and still use) Window Maker for almost a decade before learning what NeXTSTEP actually was (i heard about the name occasionally but never looked into it), then for several years before even trying one. I remember having a heavy sense of uncanny valley because the thing in front of me looked almost exactly like what i was using for years but it behaved in very odd ways (and lacked most of the window management features i came to expect) :-P. It made me realize what people who were used to Mac OS X felt when they tried the various Aqua GNOME/KDE themes that were popular on Linux desktops some years ago.

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On the topic of lookalikes, remember good old fvwm95 ?
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Yeah, although I very much prefered the orginal fvwm.
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Kind of similar story, eventually I ended up on GNOME, as I favoured Gtkmm over how KDE was at the time, but then GNOME 3.0 happened, and my travel netbook got migrated into Unity, and when it went away, XFCE.

Due to similar realisation, my main working devices became Window 7 with Virtual Box/VMWare Worstation, nowadays WSL.

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