A good security expert earns how much per year? And that person works 8/5.
Now you can just throw money at it.
CIA and co pay for sure more than 20k (thats what the anthropic red team stated as a cost for a complex exploit) for a zero day.
If someone builds some framework around this, you can literaly copy and paste it, throw money at it and scale it. This is not possible with a human.
> Now you can just throw money at it.
What happens when you throw enough money at it that it raises the cost significantly.
CIA and FBI and states easily pay 100k for a zero day.
Plenty of companies have security expert staff on file.
And it will become cheaper and easyer to use, fast.
Logged in just to show some love. +1 for the economics. +1 again (if I could) for the truth-to-power.
We need a lot more of this kind of multi-disciplinary skepticism to counterbalance the industrial grade rockstar ninja 10x Kool-Aid drinking.
It takes humans a very long time to learn how to code/find bugs. You just can't take any human and have them do it in a reasonable amount of time with a reasonable amount of money.
Claude is effectively automation, once you have the hardware you can run as many copies of the model as you want. Factories can build hardware far faster then they can train more people.
It's weird to see a denial of the industrial revolution on HN.
I’m not denying that LLMs can be used to improve security research, suggesting that their use is wrong or anything like that.
Humans have used software to research security for a long time. AI driven SAST is clearly going to help improve productivity.
Humans burned stuff for a very long time now, it's when we started burning coal in mass industrially that the global environmental impacts started stacking up to the point of considerable damage.
Coal, even a home coal fired boiler of the 1940s vintage, is just about as clean as solar, when compared to open cooking fires burning dung, which is the "most popular" method of harnessing combustion on Earth, measured per ton over per capita. Even going from wood to coal is a huge step up in pollution reduction compared to old school methods of burning randomly sourced trees. (Your rocket heater doesn't count. That wasn't even a twinkle in an inventor's eye when coal started to become popular.)
Source: did my senior P-chem work on smog. Then saw the theory made manifest (in a way that no amount of schoolwork could possibly replace) by looking at particulate build-up on a glacier with my own eyeballs. Pollution you can see, and hold in your hand will make this more clear than any amount of chart and graph reading about PM2.5 this and that.
Also: I hate that I had to self-censor my use of emdashes because I don't want my lived experiences to get flagged as chatbot slop. Grrr.
Even checking human work is often a shortcoming of processes in practice.
Arms race