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by desugun16 hours ago |
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upvoteby arcanemachiner16 hours ago|
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That number is generous, and is also a pretty decent lifespan for a socially-conscious gesture in 2026.
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upvoteby adamtaylor_1316 hours ago|
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Most people just want to use a tool that works. Not everything has to be a damn moral crusade.
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upvoteby martimarkov16 hours ago|
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Yes, let take morality out of our daily lives as much as possible... That seems like a great categorical imperative and a recipe for social success
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upvoteby cmrdporcupine14 hours ago|
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There's nothing moral about Anthropic. Especially to those of us who are not American citizens and to which Dario's pronouncements about ethics apparently do not apply, as stated in his own press release.

To me it just looks like a big sanctimonious festival of hypocrisy.

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upvoteby adamtaylor_1315 hours ago|
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That's an incredibly uncharitable take on what I said. But that kind of proves my point.

Foist your morality upon everyone else and burden them with your specific conscience; sounds like a fun time.

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upvoteby freak4215 hours ago|
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What is the charitable way to look at it then?
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upvoteby adamtaylor_1313 hours ago|
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How about assuming the positive intent of what I actually said? Not everything has to be a moral crusade. Let me use the tool without pushing your personal moral opinions on me.

The same person wringing their hands over OpenAI, buys clothing made from slave labor and wrote that comment using a device with rare earth materials gotten from slave labor. Why is OpenAI the line? Why are they allowed to "exploit people" and I'm not?

Taken to its logical conclusion it's silly. And instead of engaging with that, they deflect with oH yEaH lEtS hAvE nO mOrAlS which is clearly not what I'm advocating.

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upvoteby someguyiguess4 hours ago|
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My most charitable interpretation of what you are saying is: Two wrongs make a right. If others exploit people that makes it an acceptable thing for me to do. No one can criticize me for doing a bad thing because others also do bad things. Is that what you are saying?

I genuinely cannot see how to interpret it in a way that is positive.

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upvoteby some_furry15 hours ago|
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Yeah, why actually engage with moral issues when we can just defer to a status quo that happens to benefit me?
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upvoteby causal14 hours ago|
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"Not everything" - sure, but mass surveillance and autonomous killing are kind of big things to sweep under that rug no?
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upvoteby Findeton15 hours ago|
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We all liked the Terminator movies. Hopefully the stay as movies.
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upvoteby 15 hours ago|
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upvoteby yoyohello1312 hours ago|
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I quoted 2 weeks at the time. I think even that was generous.
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upvoteby cmrdporcupine14 hours ago|
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Thing is that Anthropic was always working with DoD, too, and the line in the sand they drew looked really noble until I found it didn't not apply to me, a non-US citizen. Dario made it clear that was the case.

And so the difference, to me, was irrelevant. I'll buy based on value, and keep a poker in the fire of Chinese & European open weight models, as well.

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upvoteby PunchTornado16 hours ago|
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neah, I believe most people here, which immediately brag about codex, are openai employees doing part of their job. otherwise I couldn't possibly phantom why would anyone use codex. In my company 80% is claude and 15% gemini. you can barely see openai on the graph. and we have >5k programmers using ai every day.
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upvoteby EQmWgw87pw15 hours ago|
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I’m thinking the same thing, Codex literally ruined the codebases that I experimented with it on.
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upvoteby muyuu14 hours ago|
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Currently GPT just works much better, and so does Gemini but it's more expensive right now. Going through Opencode stats, their claim is that Gemini is the current best model followed by GPT 5.4 on their benchmarks, but the difference is slim.

My personal experience is best with GPT but it could be the specific kind of work I use it for which is heavy on maths and cpp (and some LISP).

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upvoteby scottyah14 hours ago|
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OpenAI replaced its founding engineers with Meta PMs. The shift towards consumer engagement metrics and marketing is apparent.
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upvoteby Klayy15 hours ago|
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You can believe whatever you want. I found claude unusable due to limits. Codex works very well for my use cases.
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upvoteby nothinkjustai15 hours ago|
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Not everyone is American, and people who are not see Anthropic state they are willing to spy on our countries and shrug about OAI saying the same about America. What’s the difference to us?
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upvoteby riffraff15 hours ago|
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if you're not american you should be worried about the bit of using AI to kill people which was the other major objection by Anthropic.

(not that I think the US DoD wouldn't do that anyway, ToS or not.)

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upvoteby 8note14 hours ago|
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well, if they put in a fully automated kill chain, its gonna be weak to attacks to make yourself look like a car, or a video game styled "hide under a box"

the current non-automated kill chain has targeted fishermen and a girl's school. Nobody is gonna be held accountable for either.

Am i worried about the killing or the AI? If i'm worried about the killing, id much rather push for US demilitarization.

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upvoteby stavros13 hours ago|
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Anthropic's issue was only that the AI isn't yet good enough to tell who's an American, so it avoids killing them. They were fine with the "killing non-Americans" bit.
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upvoteby pdimitar15 hours ago|
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OK, I am worried.

Now, what can I actually do?

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upvoteby ArmadilloGang14 hours ago|
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Vote with your dollar. Ask others to do the same and explain why. If we all did this, it might matter. There’s not a lot else an individual can do.
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upvoteby cmrdporcupine14 hours ago|
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Dario in fact said it was ok to spy and drone non-US citizens, and in fact endorsed American foreign policy generally.

So, no, I'm not voting with my wallet for one American country versus the other. I'll pick the best compromise product for me, and then also boost non-American R&D where I can.

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upvoteby addandsubtract14 hours ago|
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Vote with your wallet, just like Americans.
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upvoteby nothinkjustai15 hours ago|
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Not only is Anthropic perfectly happy to let the DoD use their products to kill people, but they are partners with Palantir and were apparently instrumental in the strikes against Iran by the US military.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/03/04/anthrop...

So uh, yeah, the only difference I see between OAI and Anthropic is that one is more honest about what they’re willing to use their AI for.

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upvoteby Der_Einzige16 hours ago|
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Longer than how long anyone cared about epstein.
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