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by charcircuit21 hours ago |
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upvoteby danschuller21 hours ago|
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No many hit games started as mods. League of Legends is the one that immediately jumps to mind, but I know there are many more coming from Quake and Doom mods etc.
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upvoteby Matl20 hours ago|
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Famously Counter Strike as well.
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upvoteby charcircuit19 hours ago|
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League of Legends is its own game built on an engine Riot made from scratch.
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upvoteby pseudo018 hours ago|
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League's Wikipedia page describes it as "inspired by Defense of the Ancients, a custom map for Warcraft III." I believe they also hired some of the core Dota devs to work on League. I guess if you want to be pedantic it was a custom map, but that was more a consequence of WC3 lacking support for mods. They ended up having to work around a lot of limitations to make Dota work in the custom map framework.
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upvoteby bogdan13 hours ago|
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They hired a former dev, guinsoo. At the time when LoL was announced dota was being developed by icefrog for a few good solid years already. Most of dota's popularity happened during icefrog's years. Icefrog later joined valve and helped create Dora 2.
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upvoteby reactormonk10 hours ago|
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And some hijacking of the old DotA forums to advertise LoL: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13439036
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upvoteby drbscl19 hours ago|
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Counter-Strike

Every MOBA that exists (DotA, LoL, HoN, etc)

Team Fortress

Killing Floor

PUBG

Natural Selection

Undoubtedly, many more that I can't recall off the top of my head.

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upvoteby Aerroon12 hours ago|
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The autochess genre (Teamfight Tactics) is basically a mod of a mod since it started as a custom game in Dota 2.
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upvoteby drbscl4 hours ago|
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Yeah, that's the big one that escaped my memory
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upvoteby ViewTrick100219 hours ago|
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Tower defense games.

Warcraft 3, the birthplace of so many amazing genres.

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upvoteby charcircuit19 hours ago|
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>Counter-Strike, Team Fortress, Natural Selection

These games used the GoldSrc engine. Any game built on this engine gets called a mod. But this is not what most people actually think of when people are talking about mods. Rust is not a mod of Unity. These are game engines that people built a game using.

>DotA

This was a custom map. Not a mod.

>LoL, HoN

These were built on in house game engines and were not a mod.

>PUBG

This game used UE4 and was not a mod.

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upvoteby CodeArtisan16 hours ago|
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Counter-strike was definitively a mod, you had to install it in the same folder as Half-Life and start it with 'hl.exe -game cstrike'. It became a standalone game later with the retail release.

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https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Counter-Strike#Vers...

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upvoteby tayo4213 hours ago|
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Are we getting so old that people are forgetting cs was a mod.
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upvoteby chmod77513 hours ago|
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Calling DotA just a custom map is a bit of a stretch. That was merely the packaging. These "custom maps" had various scripting capabilities that made them more than just some terrain.

Also custom maps are mods by definitions anyways, with the exception of games where the creation of maps is a component of gameplay.

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upvoteby skrrtww12 hours ago|
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I mean, to those who played them, 'custom map' is basically just a term of art indicating the things you said. In the parlance of the mid-2000s WC3 scene, you would call them custom games or custom maps.

Or, if you were slightly older, you might call them UMS, as they were in Starcraft. Short for "Use Map Settings", indicating that the game logic should come from the scripts and triggers in the map file rather than the built-in logic for ladder games.

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upvoteby protocolture11 hours ago|
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I like how you keep doubling down, and people keep destroying you. Please keep going. It is very informative for me to watch people correct you.
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upvoteby bogdan13 hours ago|
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Dota is a wc3 map but, pendanticism aside, there is no distinction between a "map" and a mod in this context.
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upvoteby gsich8 hours ago|
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>This was a custom map. Not a mod.

This is even better. Because it's a map you can start it without modifying your game installation.

There were "real" WC3 mods, but it was always cumbersome and worked reliably only in singleplayer.

Gameplay-wise it's a mod obviously.

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upvoteby skupig20 hours ago|
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Ever heard of Dota 2? PUBG? Team Fortress 2?
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upvoteby charcircuit19 hours ago|
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None of those are mods. Dota 2 is its own game built on Source 2. PUBG used UE4. TF2 used Source.
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upvoteby NekkoDroid19 hours ago|
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They all started out as mods to games. DotA specifically was a Warcraft 3 mod and ended up making Blizzard change their stance on such things because they lost such a massive IP to a different company. PUBG started as an Arma 2 mod and TF was a Quake mod. All the mendioned games effectively have their origins in mods for other games and likely wouldn't exist (at least in the form they are today) if that weren't for that, is what they presumably were indicating.
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upvoteby charcircuit15 hours ago|
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Having gameplay originate in a mod is different from a hit game being a mod.
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upvoteby nrdvana13 hours ago|
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It was a "hit game" while it was still a mod. They were able to find investment to graduate to a standalone game because they already had a player base in the tens of thousands.
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upvoteby somewhatgoated13 hours ago|
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Just semantics - DotA 2 and LoL like 90% the same game as the wc3 dota “mod” ( we called them funmaps or custom maps)
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upvoteby evilduck18 hours ago|
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psyonix

Rocket League was a sequel to Super Sonic Rocket Powered Battle Cars which was a totally new game but born from the studio building VehicleMod for Unreal Tournament.

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upvoteby charcircuit15 hours ago|
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We are talking about hit games. Mods previously made by people who released a hit game are out of scope.
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upvoteby nrdvana12 hours ago|
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We're talking about hit games created specifically as a sequel to a hit mod of another game, and communication to the community of the hit mod that this is where the developers are going, and that they should move to the standalone game if they want to thank the developers for all that unpaid work they did on the mod over the years.
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upvoteby bilekas21 hours ago|
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You don't need to make your own engine to make a hot game from a mod though?
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