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by valleyer15 hours ago |
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upvoteby baal80spam15 hours ago|
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If you think Ternus wouldn't do it, you are in for a bad time.
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upvoteby valleyer15 hours ago|
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Well, I hope I'm not, but yes, I will be quite disappointed if so.
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upvoteby brandall1015 hours ago|
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Apple is a multi-trillion dollar public company.

It would be unusual for a leader of such a thing not act in accordance w/ shareholders' best interests, as well to defy likely board guidance.

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upvoteby shye14 hours ago|
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Most shareholders may not care beyond the next quarter, but CEO action that led to those results were made couple of years ago at least, and current action will do as much to determine not the next quarter, but one slightly further in the future. Hence Jamie Dimon, for example, making a different decision in a similar matter. As Dimon explained: “[…] we have to be very careful about how anything is perceived, and also how the next DOJ is going to deal with it. So, we’re quite conscious of risks we bear by doing anything that looks like buying favors or anything like that”[1].

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[1] https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/05/business/video/jp-morgan-chas...

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upvoteby jmye14 hours ago|
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“Capitulating to the current regime on everything is in shareholder’s best interests” is neither a foregone conclusion nor a statement of fact. It’s economic myopia at best.
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upvoteby brandall1014 hours ago|
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Let me be clear - I'm not happy about it. But ignoring such a reality reminds me of that quote comparing Job's best friend to a lawnmower.

That said, I'd love to enlightened to how it's myopic, or rather, what course(s) of action you would take, keeping in mind that Apple is a multi-trillion dollar public company.

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upvoteby jmye12 hours ago|
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I’m telling you that thinking a->b is myopic. It could be that shareholder value would’ve been higher had Tim Cook told Trump (or Biden, or Trump, or Obama) to go fuck himself. Perhaps the people who spend money on iPhones, specifically, would’ve been more inclined to buy a new iProduct, than they are now that he’s bent the knee.

Myopia is thinking “well he did it so it must have been good”. There are myriad other things he could’ve done, that have a strong argument towards higher shareholder value.

Edit to add: Think TSLA, if you want a concrete example. If that stock was at all trading on fundamentals (and if they had a remotely capable or competent board) and not Magic Memes, Musk’s hard right pivot was inarguably bad for the brand and shareholder value, even if it made the President temporarily happy.

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upvoteby Nevermark5 hours ago|
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Counterfactuals are weak opinion, at best.

Given that Apple is doing well, the onus is on someone claiming that Apple would have done better, having a strong argument.

Not "could" have done better, because things could obviously have gone better, worse, or anything else, given any substantive or random difference. Could means nothing.

(And I say this as someone very disappointed with how Cook handled that.)

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upvoteby pohl14 minutes ago|
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I’d rather hear from someone suggesting, counterfactually, that they would have done worse had they not capitulated. What’s that argument like?
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upvoteby dwaite15 hours ago|
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My condolences in advance
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upvoteby mrexcess13 hours ago|
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Wouldn’t Ternus have had a hand in the Apple Silicon backdoor?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43003230

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upvoteby saagarjha1 hours ago|
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Unlikely and it also doesn’t really seem like a backdoor
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upvoteby an0malous14 hours ago|
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It's less than the other tech CEOs who seem to evade criticism on HN. Elon literally worked for Trump, accomplished nothing, and ended up just leaking everyone's social security data. Thiel and Palantir are profiting from war and building out the surveillance state. Bezos made a $75M documentary about Melania. Larry Ellison took over TikTok US to squelch any criticism of US and Zionist war atrocities.
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