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> Switching to other providers is the best way to go, if you want to keep your insanity.

Best and most applicable typo ever ʕ ´ • ᴥ •̥ ` ʔ

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This is such a strange way for this to be announced. Why is openclaw telling us this? I wouldn't even trust it until Anthropic says so themselves.
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It's the PayPal model of customer service: they'll ban you at any time for any reason or none at all, but if you're very nice they might be willing to have a human look at that decision at some point, but probably not.
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Oh yeah that happened to my paypal the one time I had a user donate to me!

At least the only action I was still able to perform was to refund the user, or paypal would have just kept the money.

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That's the thing, it's not announced at all. The title is wrong.

It's just OpenClaw people claiming "Anthropic told us it's fine".

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They had this on here since day 1 of the block. This is just Openclaw saying "if you run Openclaw inside Claude Code, it's compliant with the Anthropic ToS", because, well, it's literally running inside Claude Code.

What's not allowed is grabbing the oauth tokens and using these for your own custom agent, which is what was (and still is) banned.

Nothing has changed, this appears to just be a giant misunderstanding (and probably a poor choice of words from Openclaw).

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Strategic ambiguity.
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The most recent Anthropic announcement was not that people would be banned for using subscriptions with OpenClaw, but that it would be charged as extra usage. I think the reason this was changed three days after that announcement is that being charged for extra usage meant people would not be banned for using their subscription OAuth tokens directly against the Anthropic API with a third party harness, as they had been before. But rather both that usage, and the more recent claude -p usage both be charged as extra usage.

I don't see anything on this page that claims something different from that, or that addresses that claim at all.

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> Switching to other providers is the best way to go, if you want to keep your insanity

I remember when I’d periodically rage quit from Uber One to Lyft Pink and back again every time I had a terrible customer-service experience. In the end, I realized picking a demon and getting familiar with its quirks was the better way to go.

I’m currently sticking with Claude, in part because I’m not exposed to this nonsense due to OpenClaw, in larger part because of the Hegseth-Altman DoD nonsense. More broadly, however, I’m not sure if any of Google, Anthropic or OpenAI are coming across as stars in AI communication and customer service.

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you know how s bunch of IT people are trying to "escape the permanent underclass" well it seems like anyone building their tools on cloud providers is doing the opposite. theyre willingly bexoming the underclass in hopes it trickles down
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> until they all or sudden update their policy tomorrow that retracts everything.

Oh no. They won't update the policy. Boris or Thariq will casually mention in a random off-hand commebt on Twitter that this is banned now, and then will gaslight everyone that this has always been the case.

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