> hand out free top end model coding access for a bit and you'll very rapidly have developer data
replyThey tried this - grok was free on openrouter for a while
It's more useful to have access your full code base compared to having access to only your input and the output they generate.
replyMarketing push was there too, everyone was saying Grok had jumped Claude and Codex, yet I never got that when using all 3.
replyTurns out that benchmaxxing doesn't help if it's not very good when people actually try it.
replyBut imagine if they handed out free access to Kimi or GLM-5. Actually, I still wouldn't use it, because I avoid APIs that say they hold on to data.
replyAnd presumably they got data from it...
replyand then released a model that didn't really leave a mark with code performance
replyBut if the developers are to presumably use the model you give out, what data are you going to get from them thats useful?
replyI don't know - was GP speculating that there is value there on a scale to justify 60B no me
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