I would guess that even now, they’re still subsidized. Just judging by how desperate these companies are to get ahead of each other
replyMost real businesses are on API billing, not Max.
replyMy company currently uses the Anthropic Enterprise subscription plan, but we’ve been informed that’s going away in 2027 in favor of API billing. If businesses are using subscriptions, I don’t think they will for long.
replyNone of the companies I deal with (~40) are on the API. Some where, but that experiment lasted a month.
replyUntil they go public, we are all just guessing.
CC has such egregious API subsidies that it’s hard to not to leverage it unless the license tells an enterprise otherwise. Love the subsidized pricing while it lasts.
reply> CC has such egregious API subsidies that it’s hard to not to leverage it unless the license tells an enterprise otherwise.
replyIt's hard to tell, honestly - about half the HN population will tell you that all the token providers are running inference at a profit when using the API and only the subscriptions are subsidised, while the other half will tell you that everything, including both the API and the subscriptions, are subsidised (i.e. running at a loss).
You have said this in a few places throughout the thread. At this point, citation is needed.
replyI work for a real business and switched from API billing to max+overflow. It saves money. It’s crazy not to. What are you talking about?
If your definition of "real businesses" is "Fortune 500, US based tech company with more money than sense or just happy to bleed VC money", sure, 99.999% of businesses are not real businesses.
replyYou may also have a very narrow view of how the world actually works, left as an exercise to the reader to figure out which one it is
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