> I am uncomfortable about sending user data which may contain PII to their servers in China
replyAs a European I feel deeply uncomfortable about sending data to US companies where I know for sure that the government has access to it.
I also feel uncomfortable sending it to China.
If you'd asked me ten years ago which one made me more uncomfortable. China.
But now I'm not so sure, in fact I'm starting to lean towards the US as being the major risk.
The chances of my bank account getting hacked due to the PLA backdoor in Deepseek is higher than the CIA backdoor in OpenAI.
replyRight now Im much more worried about sending data to the US and A.. At least theres a less chanse it will be missused against -me-
reply> For context, for an agent we're working on, we're using 5-mini, which is $2/1m tokens. This is $0.30/1m tokens. And it's Opus 4.6 level - this can't be real.
replyIt's doesn't seem all that out there compared to the other Chinese model price/performance? Kimi2.6 is cheaper even than this, and is pretty close in performance
Kimi is indeed somewhat cheap for frontier-level intelligence, but still is $4-5 per mm tokens. Deep Seek is at least an order of magnitude cheaper.
replyOh, right you are. I misread where the decimal place was in the Deepseek pricing. That is incredibly cheap
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