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No matter what happens to the viability of software development as a career, I will always care about the craft as I have done the past twenty years and change. The imperatives to adopt LLMs in situations where they do not benefit me nor my work is what is driving me away. I have to agree with latexr; the people who seem to benefit the most from the current moment are those who see software as a means to an end without much concern for quality, longevity, nor customer experience.

Why is speed-to-market such an important metric? I do not understand the need to mimic the largest players in the industry, nor do I see any particularly profound long term benefits to first mover advantage.

by latexr6 hours ago|

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> I think we will loose a lot of people who never were passionate about programming

Anecdotally, what I’m seeing right now is the opposite. People who don’t care about programming are joining, while those who do care are getting tired of the bullshit and leaving. The good programmers are the ones leaving, the hacks are extremely happy to use LLMs.

When shit hits the fan, there won’t be many people left to clean it.

by trick-or-treat5 hours ago|

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So you see people who don't care about programming, joining and getting comfortable with vscode and claude code and devops?

Because it seems to me like there's a lot of coding-adjacent things they still need to be able to do even if they never look at a line of code.

by latexr5 hours ago|

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Those examples are nonsensical. None of those are necessary to get working code. The VSCode example is particularly baffling. Firstly, I’m sure you understand there are other editors people use for code; secondly, I know even people who don’t code who have picked up VSCode for text editing and are fine with it.

by trick-or-treat2 hours ago|

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I think you haven't dealt with a lot of non-coders. 90% of the world will not be able to even open a .py

by latexr2 hours ago|

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> I think you haven't dealt with a lot of non-coders.

And I think you should avoid making assumptions about people you know nothing about. That is so far from the truth it’s not even funny.

> 90% of the world will not be able to even open a .py

Which is nowhere near my argument. I’d appreciate if you engaged with what I said or not at all.