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by ceejayoz2 days ago |
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upvoteby shykes2 days ago|
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On the contrary, I believe Israel would be delighted. It would lessen the humanitarian burden on them, and force Egypt to deal with the Hamas problem more directly. It will never happen, though. No Arab country will "throw the gates wide open" for Palestinians. They have done so before, several times, and it went very badly.
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upvoteby don_esteban2 days ago|
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The Israeli openly proposed for the Gaza Palestinians to move to Egypt (effectively ethnic cleansing Gaza, their obvious goal), not that long after 7.10.

Egypt said 'HELL NO', first, because they don't want to deal with Palestinians (both political and economic nightmare), and second because it would have been viewed as ceding to Israelis and helping them cleanse Gaza, which would be highly unpopular among their population.

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upvoteby ceejayoz2 days ago|
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> The Israeli openly proposed for the Gaza Palestinians to move to Egypt

Yeah, that's not "wide open". Israel would absolutely be happy with a one-way exit gate.

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upvoteby shykes2 days ago|
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upvoteby constantius1 days ago|
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No they wouldn't, it's their land and they demonstrated after 80 years of ethnic cleansing that they will not be driven out it. I already addressed another one of your racial fantasies elsewhere, here you descend into genocide apology.
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upvoteby philistine2 days ago|
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That is very reductive of the whole situation. The Egyptians are not singularly focused on helping Palestinians; it is far more nuanced than that.

Bottom line, Egyptians are not interested in supporting millions of refugees inside their border. So the border stays closed to mass immigration.

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upvoteby ceejayoz2 days ago|
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All that may be true.

Also true: If Egypt opened the border and Israel objected, Israel would take swift military action.

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upvoteby deepsun2 days ago|
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No, why? Israel would celebrate.

But NONE of the Arab countries want to help Gaza people really.

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upvoteby ceejayoz2 days ago|
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> No, why? Israel would celebrate.

This is directly contradicted by Israel's actions in the Gaza War. Egyptian control of the crossing was not enough, so they took it. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-07/israel-ra...

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upvoteby JumpCrisscross2 days ago|
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Israel would object to aid and weapons flows into Gaza. It would be fine with Gazans leaving the Strip. The problem is there are currently zero takers globally for a significant Palestinian refugee population, in part, as other comments have mentioned, due to the history of Palestinian refugee populations in the Middle East. (To my knowledge, Palestinian Americans have been fine and productive members of society.)
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upvoteby constantius1 days ago|
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Racial theorists are out in full force today.

I do wonder if you all can hear yourself: a lot of subtle implications of genetic defects in Palestinians' character and selective understanding of geopolitics in the region, or just basic societal dynamics.

I invited another commenter to transpose their reasoning to groups it's less popular to openly discriminate, I'd suggest you do the same.

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upvoteby philistine1 days ago|
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Saying that no nations want to take Palestinian refugees does not make you a racist.

The fact remains; no Middle Eastern nation wants Palestinian refugees, not for their genes, but for their politics.

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upvoteby constantius18 hours ago|
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"Saying that gays steal does not make you homophobic": technically true, but you're being selective with your understanding of facts.

Most states (talking about decision-makers, not populations) don't want to take in large groups of refugees, not because of their genes or politics, but because it has a cost and risks (in terms of integration, gov perception, fuelling far right parties, etc.). Nothing to do with Middle-Eastern/Palestinian.

Even though there are examples of massive refugee intakes by states, everywhere, including in the Middle-East, including of Palestinians, including voluntary.

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upvoteby shykes2 days ago|
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upvoteby 8note2 days ago|
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if egypt opened the border, it would mean weapons and bombs flowing from egypt into gaza.

thats not something israel would be excited about

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upvoteby fakedang2 days ago|
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More like refugees flowing out, which Egypt doesn't want to deal with.

The Palestinians didn't help their cause with Yasser Arafat's Black September uprising in Jordan. Then they topped that up with strong support for Saddam when he invaded Kuwait. Like the ones in Kuwait were literally betraying Kuwaitis to the Iraqi troops.

Oh, and did I forget Lebanon? They literally fomented the civil war.

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upvoteby deepsun2 days ago|
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I mean "open the border" to allow Gazans to leave to Egypt. But Egypt (and none other Arab countries) are accepting refugees from Gaza.
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upvoteby pixl972 days ago|
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At the same time, neither would Egypt. Refugee crisises are messy.
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