Appreciate the candid take. Warp is great.
Warp is the only closed source terminal product I know of. Most other popular terminal emulators are open source already.
I feel like their funding is drying up and this is their last ditch effort to have the "community" build their product for them.
They claim agents will run the show, with inputs from community in the form of ideas/specs/direction. I wonder how long that will be sustainable for given the subsidized model prices are collapsing as we speak.
Is this an attempt to pivot to something else while the "community" keeps their first product alive? Maybe I'm being too cynical here, but I don't see this as an act of good faith, especially given their roots in VC funding.
Is Warp a terminal? Or an agent harness? Or both?
Warp as a terminal to me seems less interesting than having a well built agent harness like OpenCode that can effectively use many different models. If it's both, is there any advantage to having them be the same thing? Like, is there any way your harness can be smarter if it is also tightly integrated in your terminal? Or is it just something that Warp happens to do both of?
I welcome the experimentation, there will definitely be something new, but this ain't it. New primitives are needed, at a higher level of conceptualization, not merely a fancy new interface.
> writing code is now fast, it's getting cheaper, and quality is going up to the right
I'm unconvinced... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47939579My hobby projects have 100x more tests than they used to, because LLMs are great at writing tests. And my subjective experience is that the net quality has increased as a result.
YMMV, but it’s certainly a common belief, and for me at least a lived experience.
Warp had an account requirement in the beginning which spoke volumes about the misalignment of values. Now the terminal is not called a terminal, it is "the agentic development environment" (whatever that means) which also lowkey implies that it might have some kind of online features. But at the same time I understand that it is now an absolute requirement to mention AI on any web page for any product.
Does it call home?
edit: nevermind, it was quite discoverable...
I don’t think the approach of open source as a substitute for a quality program is going to last.
i currently use tmux and ghostty for my workflow
... it's not about OS/2 3 or 4, but some AI thing, and apparently feels no need to disambiguate or even acknowledge the prior usage of its name
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Could we have just released it? Absolutely. But I think everyone who contributed felt better knowing that what was released had one final "ready for public" review. Then our regular review process handled that going forward.
tangential: I've seen Mitchel tweet that people in SF have ran up to him showing him how they fully riced their Ghostty setup. How many people here have done this and how easy/manageable is it? e.g. just forking the repo and implementing whatever Warp feature I like?
Ghostty remains incredible stable and usable and fast compared to competition.
That would be awesome!
And the motivation was warp is doing a little bit more than a terminal.
Glad to see now warp is open-sourced
Do you regret having this requirement in the first place?
Personal feedback: I live in a terminal 24x7 for the last 30+ years and once Warp came out I wanted to try it out immediately, but I was impressed by the requirement. So I never had a chance to try it out.
I'm actually pretty proud of the final setup I've created with it.
Each time I start to implement a new ticket, superset will pull the ticket from linear, create a worktree/workspace, reserve ports, start the servers, start a browser and start Claude with the ticket as instructions.
The cool thing with this setup is, I can have like 10x the same servers running on different ports/worktrees. Each time an agent is done, I switch to the workspace, look at the browser and can immediately test things.
It's like having 10 virtual desktops. Wonderful!
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Nice...
The AI integration only came years later, and they probably figured maybe they could compete in the space with Cursor, repl.it, etc. And then Claude Code came and just devoured everything, while Google bought Windsurf, Microsoft pushes Copilot, and OpenAI has Codex (while at the same time kitty and ghostty also built really nice, fast terminal emulators)
I agree I don't think they have any real shot and I certainly wouldn't recommend investing in their next round, but it's not like this was their plan all along, they went where the winds were blowing.
for zsh:
autoload edit-command-line
zle -N edit-command-line
bindkey '^X^E' edit-command-lineAlt-e for fish
Ctrl-g for Claude code
What you describe sorta works, but you lose things like file/dir-based autocomplete, since your editor doesn't know about your shell session.
EDIT: well looks like this is not OS/2 Warp. I wish the title would have noted this is somekind of app instead of just saying "warp".