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by anonymousiam2 days ago |
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upvoteby TFNA2 days ago|
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> anybody who does banking on their phone is taking a big and unnecessary risk

It is not necessarily a matter of choice. Besides what the other commenter notes about 2FA, in some countries banks have been removing functionality from their online-banking website, and you can only do certain things in the phone app.

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upvoteby cesarb2 days ago|
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> in some countries banks have been removing functionality from their online-banking website, and you can only do certain things in the phone app.

The most infuriating I've seen, is a bank which removed the anual tax report (which you need to do the anual income tax) from the online-banking website, requiring you to use the phone app... to download a PDF file, which you then have to transfer to the computer anyway so you can print it!

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upvoteby fragmede2 days ago|
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Fwiw, iOS lets you print to network attached printers directly, no macOS needed.
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upvoteby literalAardvark1 days ago|
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You can print from your phone, and also you probably don't even need to print it.
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upvoteby eks3912 days ago|
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This annoys me to no end. I have an old phone that I boot up occasionally because it holds all the apps that I only need once per year for a niche feature that is only accessible in their app. I don't need 200 apps on my main that I would otherwise never open.
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upvoteby unethical_ban2 days ago|
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I see you suggest you can't say more, but I'll still ask the questions:

Is it a privacy or financial risk to have banking on your phone?

How is banking on a phone app more dangerous than banking via mobile or desktop websites?

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upvoteby anonymousiam2 days ago|
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It is a privacy risk, a financial risk, and a security risk.

The issue is the platform. Obviously there are issues with desktop platforms too, but those are easier to mitigate.

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upvoteby Anonyneko2 days ago|
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See, the thing is, here you can't use banking on your computer without having a bespoke authentication app on your phone. There used to be a system of one-time codes sent via paper mail, but even that has been scrapped by now, so using bank ID apps is literally the only option across all of the local banks. In my bank the ID app and the bank app are even different apps, and it's the ID app that's the truly important one to have (and that, of course, hates rooted/modified phones with a passion).

The government services also go through these ID apps, although there is a poorly supported alternative that uses USB smart card readers. I have not seen a single person actually use it, probably for a reason, though I'm planning to get one just to have a backup...

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upvoteby nikonyrh1 days ago|
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At least in Finland's Nordea bank you can order a physical code calculator, they used to be small enough to keep on your wallet but the new one is the size of an old small phone. It even has a QR scanner. So I just keep it at home.
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upvoteby Anonyneko1 days ago|
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I actually had no idea, I thought they retired these, but it seems that one of the models is still available. Thanks for the heads up!
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upvoteby catcowcostume2 days ago|
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Not a choice if you live in a "developed" country
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upvoteby autoexec2 days ago|
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I live in a "developed" country and don't have a banking app on my phone. It's a choice. Sometimes it's a choice of which bank you bank with. Sometimes it's a choice to stick with more traditional means of interacting with that bank and not even checking your account using a website, but it's absolutely a choice.
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