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You can't even do it ironically anymore because the average user doesn't pick up on it and whatever insane joke you pull will become internet norm in the future
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Memes are still a thing.
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Are they though? I realised a couple of weeks ago that meme culture seems to have died. Obviously not to zero, we still see them, but there seemed to be two meme times - the advice animals time of around 2014, and another time since, but they don't seem popular now
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They're completely unrecognisable as memes since they increasingly don't use exploitables, but they're still out there. r/memes is very much around and well, if you want to see what's currently a thing sort by top of this year/month/week
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> Are they though? (...) meme culture seems to have died

This is how I know you're out of touch.

The kids and their memes are alive and well, you just don't know where they are and what that looks like.

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If it's that easy to miss then the culture has comparatively died. Memes are still around, but there was a period where they were everywhere. Like the gas station would have a bad luck Brian meme if the bathroom was out of order. You walked in Kohls and there were three different variations of "Know Your Meme" type games on an end cap. The average person would see and hear multiple memes daily in the course of everyday non-internet related activities, then they fell way off. 6-7 was the meme culture dead cat bounce.
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The kids are memeing heavily with AI. I don't understand it, but then again, my parents wouldn't have understood rage comics or other memes from back in the day.

Really not sure what GP is referring to - lots of humor still going around - but I can probably guess.

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The internet is for everyone. That includes what you're not interested in.

It's pretty clear to me you all are just looking for closure. You do not want to live in the past. You can prove it to yourself by finding any old discussion archive and feeling the cringe. You do not want the values of the past either. You're chasing a feeling that is more related to your own aging than what various media like the internet "are".

Things would have changed anyway. You might just be upset that it wasn't on your terms. You can try to revive old ideas, but that veers into art. Art is very hard and requires a much deeper perspective than nostalgia. The perspective required to create what you want will also necessarily ruin what you expected to feel from it.

A relevant quote: "Everything was better back when everything was worse" - David Sipress, The New Yorker, Nov 24, 2003

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Nah, disagree, things were actively better in a few ways. The big tech companies now purposely diffuse and obfuscate the value proposition to increase engagement and show more ads. There are some ways in which things have improved and that's mostly with standardization and pure accessibility, but the quality is extremely decreased.

For several of my interests I still participate in the modern version of what would previously have been dedicated websites powered by forums, but they are now on Facebook / reddit / discord and collections of YT videos. The quality of information is nowhere near what it was. The amount of spam, platform ads, and useless posts to drive engagement is easily over 50% of the content. There is no timely cohesive flow of posts or discussion. The benefits are far more members and consistent mobile access but they come with huge tradeoffs. Prioritizing mobile has many downsides and most of those users do not meaningfully contribute or even actively pollute the content.

It's not just nostalgia, the quality of content and sense of community was much better when people went into their own corners to discuss things vs everyone standing in the center and yelling over the background noise of a common ad-suoported platform.

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