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We start by not shipping Chrome with "native" applications instead of learning the platform APIs.

Followed by creating Web applications based on Web standards, instead of whatever Chrome does, and then complain about Firefox and Safari not being up to the game.

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I really don't see how Electron is connected here. When you're an Electron app, you really don't have to care about which web APIs Chrome implements, you can just use the native NodeJS equivalents, which will usually give you a better UX anyways.

But absolutely on the second point. A standard with one implementation is not a standard. Regardless of market share, in a market with three providers, if two out of three don't support something, you have no business using it. It unhealthy for everyone involved.

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Electron is Chrome, and we disagree on "better" UX.
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It's somehow even worse when you compile your own browser. Want Spotify or Netflix? You need Widevine with attestation. Go pay Google.

Your Browser Agent string isn't Chrome or Firefox? Enjoy endless Cloudflare captchas or just a 403 error.

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> How do we solve this? How do we make the browser ours, by the people, and for the people?

Simple. Break up all the big tech corporations via anti-trust legislation. They are the robber barons of our time.

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> How do we solve this? How do we make the browser ours, by the people, and for the people?

Unfortunately, the answer is pretty much always "real public funding"

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You have a decent browser. The average person has Chrome. Those who do care switch to the former. What needs to be solved?

> voice out there for the average person and a project that connects with the masses

> they rather engage and connect with things that are "fun" and want less friction rather than freedom and control

Do you see the contradiction? The average person "connects with" less friction rather than control.

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I understand what you’re saying, though there’s a quote that hurts me whenever I try and reason about it this way, which is:

"We must all fear evil men, but there is another kind of evil, which we must fear most, and that is, the indifference of good men”

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You don't have to be indifferent. I think making GNU etc. more accessible for the person who is average except that they prefer control is noble.
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