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by cyberax16 hours ago |
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upvoteby johnea16 hours ago|
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So why would you prefer goggle's "control the user experience" power-tripping, to rivian's?

I'd much rather side with the company that was willing to allow the user to disable net connectivity...

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upvoteby yjftsjthsd-h16 hours ago|
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I would prefer to have the choice.
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upvoteby philipallstar16 hours ago|
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Your phone has an airplane mode.
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upvoteby Terr_16 hours ago|
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Also, I can replace or upgrade my phone a hell of a lot more easily than I can replace my car.
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upvoteby babypuncher16 hours ago|
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Ideally, they would support Android Auto and Apple CarPlay. There are a few big reasons this is preferable.

- I already pay for internet on my phone, I'm not interested in paying for another cellular service just to get maps and music streaming on the screen in my car. GM ditched CarPlay specifically to push customers to their subscription service. I know some electric automakers are offering it "for free", but I do not trust that it will remain free, and that's important when spending tens of thousands of dollars on something you plan to use for a decade+.

- Third party app ecosystem means I can use the maps and music player I want, and not just what my car manufacturer decides is worth including.

- Auto manufacturers suck at software. I've yet to use an infotainment system that wasn't a stark downgrade from CarPlay.

Basically, my car shouldn't need an internet connection because my smartphone already does all the same things but better.

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upvoteby bluGill12 hours ago|
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My car has Android Automotive and CarPlay and Android Auto are disabled. Honestly, if I was driving my car for all days, eight hours a day, the Android Automotive is better. However, I don't. I drive for a few minutes to work on days when it's not safe to ride my bike. That doesn't happen very often, but once in a while. It's just not worth the monthly fee and I'm really frustrated the few times I do get in my car that I can't use my phone because a car keeps jumping in when I say, hey Google. if I'm using maps, I don't see the friendly display. Which direction I'm supposed to turn and so if the kids are talking to me at the same time the jumps up, I sometimes miss my turn indicator. When playing music I don't have a nice convenient touch in front of me to say skip this song instead I have to pick up my phone which of course is illegal now for good reason.
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upvoteby tzs7 hours ago|
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Worth noting that with some brands when the free cellular service for the car's use runs out and you would need to start paying you can go to the network settings and tell it to use an external WiFi network, such as your phone's hotspot, instead of the built in cellular connection.
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upvoteby thaeli11 hours ago|
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Also, my phone follows me between vehicles and provides the exact same interface in all of them. Heck, I can switch vehicles and my podcast or music starts back up right where I left it. That alone is a major win for the phone-based approach - if I drive my spouse's vehicle for instance, or my old truck because I need to haul something, doesn't matter, they all have the same navigation and audio.
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upvoteby cyberax16 hours ago|
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My phone runs GrapheneOS and does not use any Google service. But it supports Android Auto. Allowing it would dramatically improve the experience.

Instead, Rivian adds a purely performative toggle that makes the car's navigation largely useless and doesn't provide a good alternative.

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