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by jwilliams17 hours ago |
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upvoteby AbstractH244 hours ago|
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> As others have pointed out, Anthropic is allowed to have TOS, even if we disagree with it.

Anthropic is allowed to shutdown its LLM and manufacture clown noses if it wants

Doesn’t mean customers have to agree with it.

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upvoteby kentonv14 hours ago|
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Come on, folks. This is not a conspiracy.

LLMs have a knowledge cutoff date. Opus 4.7's documented cutoff date is in January. Older Claude models are earlier than that.

OpenClaw didn't have the name OpenClaw until January 30th. So indeed, even the latest Claude model does not know what OpenClaw is, unless you have it do a web search. If you have it search, it'll happily tell you all about it.

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upvoteby jeeeb12 hours ago|
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Knowledge cutoff is completely insufficient as an explanation.

These models have access to a web search tool. Gemini and ChatGPT both happily search for give info on OpenClaw. Claude denies all knowledge.

What’s more it’s this part that’s very concerning.. Banned for wrong think..

> I gave it a direct link to openclaw.ai and the chat instantly ended and hit my 5hr usage limit.

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upvoteby kentonv1 hours ago|
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Claude does not use the web search tool unless it thinks there's a good reason to. If you nudge it to search, it will, and then it'll tell you all about OpenClaw. You can easily go try this yourself -- I just did. It works fine.

> I gave it a direct link to openclaw.ai and the chat instantly ended and hit my 5hr usage limit.

Again, go to claude.ai yourself and try it. It works fine. It happily tells you about OpenClaw.

Whatever happened to jrflo must have been a coincidence. It frankly doesn't make any sense for Anthropic to be trying to block this.

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upvoteby swordsith6 hours ago|
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Claude is notorious in my experience to lie directly to your face (even if its baffling) instead of using the web tool. I'll never prompt it without saying 'use web tool' Its ridiculous.
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upvoteby NamlchakKhandro9 hours ago|
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the model has no such magical access to tools.

it's the harness which responds to the models replies that has access to the tools.

I wish people would continue to reiterate this difference.

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upvoteby jeeeb3 hours ago|
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I said the model has access to a web search tool. Of course it’s the harness that provides that access.

I didn’t spell that out because it’s irrelevant detail, immaterial to the point I was making.

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upvoteby ScoobleDoodle12 hours ago|
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Except GP said they also pointed it to the source website to reference and then had the follow up weirdness.
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upvoteby kakacik7 hours ago|
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Is the behavior the same with other unknown words? Certainly doesn't seem so from other comments.
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upvoteby jwilliams9 hours ago|
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Fair call.

I don't think couching it as conspiracy is the right frame either. This is not a one-off. I think a critical eye is warranted.

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upvoteby imiric17 hours ago|
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> likely straight up violates Claude's Constitution

A company that goes against their self-proclaimed values... What a shocker.

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upvoteby AbstractH243 hours ago|
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>> likely straight up violates Claude's Constitution > A company that goes against their self-proclaimed values... What a shocker

Makes you wonder how much of the claims around Mythos are exaggerated to crate hype in advance of a IPO

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upvoteby malfist39 minutes ago|
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Surely and AI company wouldn't exaggerate. Thats securities fraud!
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