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> As for fish, we prefer to maintain sustainable local fish stocks, and choose import.

There's hard evidence for this in the form of a map [1]. The light pixels close to the Australian coastline are Australian vessels fishing close in. The solid light areas further from the coast are other countries' vessels stripping the ocean bare. It's particularly obvious to the north east of Australia, where the solid line is the edge of Australia's exclusive economic zone. Minimal activity (dark) inside the zone, being stripped bare (light) outside the zone.

China may be listed as self-sufficient in fish, but its fish are not coming from near China [2]. Mind you, Australia's not helping if it's just buying from countries that are stripping stocks.

[1] https://globalfishingwatch.org/map/index?longitude=126.00884...

[2] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-19/how-china-is-plunderi...

> We're screwed on coffee and chocolate.

If things get desperate, AU does have small coffee and cacao goring industries!

https://www.agca.au/

https://www.thechocolateprofessor.com/blog/australian-cacao

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>China may be listed as self-sufficient in fish, but its fish are not coming from near China

PRC fishing is ~85% domestic aquaculture. THE HIGHEST RATIO OF SUSTAINABLE AQUACULTURE IN THE WROLD.

Of 15% remaining wild catch, ~50% is from east sea, i.e. PRC coast. So ~95% self sufficiency. ~98% including SCS, i.e. PRC definition of sovereign waters. Functionally, self sufficiency is at 100%, since PRC large aquaculture exporter.

All the distant fishing drama/propaganda is just 2-5% of PRC fishing, which per capita they underfish relative other major fishing distant water fishing actors like JP, SKR, TW, Spain etc. For reference PRC distant water catches like 1.5kg per capita, the others 3-30kg+, i.e. 2-20x PRC. TLDR is PRC is the largest aquaculture producer (absolute&relative) that also grossly under extracts from global commons relative to other DWF, unless one thinks PRC citizens entitled to less fish.

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Hey maxglute, I could post verbatim what you did, changing only numbers.

Without a reliable source, your numbers are meaningless.

Trying to find an honest source about chinese economics is not possible, they don’t exist. This isn’t a conspiracy theory, it’s widely known.

The prc doesn’t divulge this information accurately.

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Hey irishcoffee, why don't you do that. This 2026, why don't you plug-in your feels numbers with my broadly educated numbers into deep research and see what gets validated - lots of proxy indicators to establish bounds and see whose numbers it comports with and how it deviates from claims.

>it’s widely known

It's widely held cope (aka meaningless) argument by western useful idiots, who don't critically follow PRC subject matters. Some controversial PRC numbers are smoothed, trend/gross approximates are possible via proxy indicators. But domestic fishery #s not controversial, and stuff like aquaculture can be estimated / verified via 3rd party proxy measures i.e. last western geospatial from top of my head mapped PRC aquaculture pond sizes (which is subsect of PRC aquaculture) at ~23000 sqkm, which already gets 2/3 way to official production numbers based on yield/utilization guestimates. See, something's like agri/aquaculture, there are various way to guestimate / measure if one is not innumerate.

And mismeasure, like the propaganda surrounding PRC distant fishing #s that are in fact, without reliable source, and meaningless, i.e if you follow the subject matter claims of PRC DWF fleet size increased from 3000 to 30000 boats since 2020 while claiming PRC DWF catch increased from 12m tons to 15m tons. 1000% increase in fleet size to increase catch by 25%.

So yeah trying to find honest Western source about Chinese anything is not possible outside of mining #s to see if comport with reality, they don't exist. This isn't a conspiracy theory, but unfortunately it's not widely known - despite Trump/(lying)Pompeo publicly acknowledged 100b program to spread anti PRC propaganda (including PRC DWF to push USCG deployments). The US propaganda laundering system doesn't divulge this information accurately. But useful idiots will eat it up regardless despite basic numeracy/analytic skills can extract numbers from variety of sources to find meaning, i.e. figure out which numbers comport with reality, and which doesn't.

The DWF tonnage and derived per capita figures from western claims btw. So even propaganda #s designed to make PRC look bad with some basic decomposition shows per capita PRC better than JP, SKR, TW on DWF. But maybe we all better off being number nihilists and embrace numberwang.

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