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Like writing code to me is not slower than writing text?

When I write code every character I type in my computer has less ambiguity than when I write it in human language? I also have the help of LSPs, Linters and Auto-completes.

by dreambuffer11 hours ago|

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This assumes:

- that you spend no amount of time looking things up, reorganising, or otherwise getting stuck

- that you have a solution to the problem ready to go at all times

- that your solution is better than the LLM's solution

I highly, highly doubt that all 3 of these are true. I doubt even 1 of them is true, I think you just don't know how to use LLMs in a focused way.

by jwpapi7 hours ago|

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I use AI to look things up and I try to learn. That part is speed up, but once I know how X works I’m faster doing it myself. My assumption is that most people seeing things differently, compare their performance of not knowing how X works with Claude, but not with someone who’s really good at X. Which makes a lot of sense given LLMS are prediction generators. My take is that the best use of AI is to get you to the point where you are really good with X and then naturally your AI usage will go down.

by jatora18 minutes ago|

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> but once I know how X works I’m faster doing it myself.

Survey says: Legacy coder.

by jameson12 hours ago|

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I have a similar sentiment. Subject that makes the claim that AI writing code is fast is going to matter a lot because some programmers heavily use "LSPs, Linters and Auto-completes", key bindings, snippets, CLI commands, etc to speed up writing code

by spoiler13 hours ago|

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It's not much to go on by, but I kinda feel ya. I think one exception I'd perhaps make is doing a large mechanic refactor. I find them incredibly daunting. So, I'll just ask AI for that. I mean it probably takes me a similar time to do, but it feels less daunting.

I've been trying to get into agentic coding and there are non-refactoring instances where I might reac for it (like any time I need to work on something using tailwind; I'm dyslexic and I'd get actual headaches, not exaggerating, trying to decipher Tailwind gibberish while juggling their docs before AIs came around)

by jwpapi12 hours ago|

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I use Jetbrains features for that usually, it has great tools for that.

Lets say on that JSON API I want to extract part of the logic in a repositiory file i CTRL + W the function then I have almost all of my shortcuts with left alt + two character shortcuts. So once marked i do LAlt + E + M for Extract Method then it puts me in a step in between to rename the function and then LAlt + M+V for MoVe and then it puts me in an interface to name the function.

Once you used to it its like a gamer doing APMS and its deterministic and fast. I also have R+N (rename), G+V (generate vitest) Q+C(query console), Q+H(Query history) and many more. Really useful. Probably also doable with other editors.

by IanCal3 hours ago|

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I highly recommend looking into codemods for larger mechanical refactorings. I did things like converting large test suites from one testing library to another by having codex write a codemod to convert it as a first pass.

by weird-eye-issue11 hours ago|

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I use voice to text and for me coding is way faster now. You don't need to sit down and type up a perfect spec lol. I give it terrible prompts with poor grammar and typos from incorrect transcriptions and it does an amazing job. Definitely not perfect I iterate with it a ton but it's still faster than typing it out by hand

by fragmede8 hours ago|

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You're still typing? I don't know how fast you can type, but I can speak way faster than I can type. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 300 wpm. Speech-to-text is pretty good now, and prompting an AI means I'm not trying to speak curly brace semicolon new line.

by jwpapi7 hours ago|

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Average speaking speed for english speakers is 100-120 wpm for complex topic. I type 130wpm peak and I have the most common coding characters on my home row using neo layout.

by weird-eye-issue2 hours ago|

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I hope you never get RSI. It absolutely blows and I can barely type for the last few years without getting pain. And this is with physical therapy...

by jwpapi2 hours ago|

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I had Ulnar Nerve issue, but I’ve changed my setup and it really helped. I don’t have any problems anymore.

It took quite some time to figure out what works and what triggers it. However I don’t know it’s the same for RSI.

I’m grateful for the ability to use speaking as a second option, but utilizing both I can’t cope that speaking is even remotely close to typing :/