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A 128GiB MacBook Pro in Canada is what, north of CAD $11k after tax? That’s around USD $7k. At $20/month for a cloud AI subscription, you’re looking at almost 30 years of service for the same money.

How long do people realistically expect a laptop to stay competitive with SOTA local models? Especially in a space where model sizes, context windows, and inference requirements keep moving every year.

And even if the hardware lasts, the local experience usually doesn’t. A heavily quantized local model running at tolerable speeds on consumer hardware is still nowhere near frontier hosted models in reasoning, coding, multimodal capability, tool use, or reliability.

The economics just don’t make sense to me unless you specifically need offline inference, privacy guarantees, or low latency for a niche workflow. Otherwise you’re tying up $10k upfront to run an approximation of what you can already access through a subscription that continuously improves over time.

You could literally put the difference into index funds and probably cover the subscription indefinitely from the returns alone, even accounting for gradual price increases.

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Buy a Framework Desktop with 128 GB instead. It's half the price, and though I bought it for even less before RAM prices went crazy.
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You can buy a used GPU for under 400 dollars if you already have a desktop and run qwen 3.6 a3b and for a majority of frontier tasks get by just fine. Why do you need to spend 10k on a laptop, we are swimming in ewaste.
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But what if you were going to buy a laptop anyway? Obviously you can't do anything with less than 64 GBytes these days, so the question is just whether you go for the jump to 128.

In the UK, it's currently an extra £800 to get a 128 GB vs the 64 GB equivalent. So that's more like 3 years of Claude - I think? - assuming current prices stay the same.

Or: you might just feel like £800 isn't an unjustifiable amount of money (one way or another), and tick the box, on the basis that it might just work out. As the saying goes, in for 459,900 pennies, in for £5,399...

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> Obviously you can't do anything with less than 64 GBytes these days

I don't think that's true. Plenty of people can run basic workflows at 8GB on the MacBook Neo and most others are fine at 16 GB.

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I am a developer, as many of us on here are. I currently have 32GB of RAM and am constantly fighting swap. 64GB would be min even w/o local model.
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I rebuilt the entire fastcomments moderation UI 2yrs ago with webstorm on my 16gb thinkpad. 64gb is nice but not needed. I wonder if every dev didn't use an M4 Pro if software wouldn't be so resource hungry...
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Realistically it's 48 M5 Pro vs 128 M5 Max due to constraints on how you can configure them. So a more substantial difference of ~2k US.
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You are assuming I'd only get it for that. That would probably just be the straw that broke the camels back, but I'm already thinking about a purchase even if that doesn't work out.
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You have to use the item a lot, to the point where you'd be exceeding subs a lot
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This is one of the best takedowns of local models I've ever seen.

I just hate paying money for cloud subscriptions, and work has given me a decent laptop

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Have been using Qwen 3.6 27b recently along with various other models the last month and it is very capable for writing code at a level I haven't need to use a subscription for 95% of what I throw at it. Been using it to write extensions for Pi to expand tool kit without much fuss as one example. Is it as fast or SOTA? No, but you can't ignore how functional it is on hardware you own. Where it can begin to struggle is giving too open ended prompts or investigating complex technical issues. At that level its knowledge is not high enough to solve those problems on its own.
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