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by sevenzero2 hours ago |
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upvoteby comandillos2 hours ago|
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The biggest mistake is that people trusted a company that, in reality, isn't that different from Apple. Just because everyone claimed Android as the true open source alternative to iOS, when only AOSP was that.
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upvoteby sevenzero2 hours ago|
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Yea agree. I reeeeally dont get why Google or Apple have good reputation at all.
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upvoteby comandillos1 hours ago|
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They built products people like, and specially Apple has good reputation for building reliable, long-lasting and easy to use stuff for most people, leading to a heavy user adoption. But heavy user adoption without the proper regulation and company ethics leads to, well, monopolistic practices.
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upvoteby jhanschoo1 hours ago|
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> Google now pulls the rug on Android which is a whole different story because it used to be open. The whole idea of Android was to be open.

This is the narrative for us in developed nations, but the majority of users today are people who were in developing countries and got a mid-tier smartphone to chat with friends and do banking with the same values as Apple users.

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upvoteby curt152 hours ago|
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> Because Apple always did this, everybody knew this and people buy Apple exactly because of this.

Is that really so? Does the average iPhone user actually factor the app store tax into their decision to purchase the device? Or do they just assume that is just how all software works because they have no exposure to software ecosystems outside the iPhone app store

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upvoteby throw0101c1 hours ago|
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> Does the average iPhone user actually factor the app store tax into their decision to purchase the device?

As I'm the IT tech support for some family members, I certainly do. A lot less drama and garbage when using Apple products (generally speaking).

I've sysadmined Linux for a living for many moons now, and used to run Linux and then FreeBSD at home, and I switched to Apple for personal stuff during the PowerPC and early Mac OS 10.x timeframe because I did enough fiddling with tech at work and minimized it at home.

I used Linux desktops at work in the pre-COVID era when we still had offices and such. I now use a Apple laptop as I can get Unix-y tools to admin: I spend >80% of my time in Terminal (the rest in Safari and Mail).

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upvoteby sevenzero1 hours ago|
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They factor in a more "clean" appstore yes. Not the tax itself but they usually appreciate apple having more polished apps in general (given that the Google Playstore is full of trash).
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upvoteby Intermernet1 hours ago|
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Google play store is only full of trash if you go hunting for trash. I'd like to see the actual stats of people affected by play store malware vs malware available on the play store.

I'm not saying it's not a problem, but I am saying it's not a problem that has caused any problems with any Android user I've ever met.

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upvoteby sevenzero1 hours ago|
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I am not talking about the malware, I am talking about the apps that are bloated with advertisements or try really hard to push a subscription upon you. Lots of "free" apps try to push you into a subscription once installed.
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upvoteby intended39 minutes ago|
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> but I am saying it's not a problem that has caused any problems with any Android user I've ever met.

You are an HN user of some age. You might even be the family IT person. You may well be changing the experience of people in your orbit.

In contrast, my grandfather’s android phone had somehow 3 different SMS apps, all of which must have tried to remove the default app.

I doubt you think some chap living in rural India, has good data hygiene and habits.

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