Interacting with a computer in natural language is much more human than typing in special codes and punctuation.
replySo telling someone to make a table for you is more human than making it yourself, because you're using natural language instead of saws and hand planes?
replyI would say yes, conversing between two humans, maybe even collaborating, is more human than a solitary human using inanimate objects.
replyBasket weaving is more human than conversation. Language is entry level artificial man.
replyEven if the table collapses down badly instead of doing a proper one with a good set of tools?
reply> telling someone to make a table for you is more human than making it yourself
replyThat's a bad comparison. You have to compare crafting a table manually to doing it via CNC.
Imagine writing this comment on 2013 Hacker News with a straight face.
replyThe human world is full of special codes and obscure gestures that only have meaning if provided in the right sequence to the right people. Computer programming being documented and formalized makes it more accessible than many social circles.
replyAre you writing code in a computer instead of using pen and paper? Preposterous!
replyWhat if it wouldn't get done otherwise?
reply(Genuine question as we're all trying to figure this shit out)
I think we can agree that this is not something anybody will actually use, but rather an homage to "They Live", and IMHO, letting this be done by AI is in contrast to the basic premise of the movie.
replyWhat's the premise of the movie? I thought it was about psyops.
reply(Also interdimensional shapeshifting reptilians.)
The joke wasn't worth 10+ hours manual work
replyThat argument could be taken to any extreme at the end of the day. They Live, at its core, is a commentary on unrestrained capitalism. You could fault OP for using a Google browser. You could fault OP for using a Microsoft cloud repository. The line may be blurrier than one thinks...
replyAny argument can be taken to any extreme. This is why it's a popular rhetorical tactic, called "appeal to extremes".
replySo, why did you use it in this case?
replySo you consider calling something "ironic" an extreme position? On a more general note, you will find that many people are uncomfortable with the idea that AI will replace human work, especially when it relates to art, which this project in question references.
replyBut there are many more tech things we take for granted that could be seen as ironic as well. I think I never saw this movie but being a young adult and an Internet nerd in the late '90s early -00s I remember perfectly how many people were negatively discussing it because it was dehumanizing, destroying personal relationships in flesh and a long etc. And while the future turned out to be not so good as some early adopter thought, it also never turned into something so bleak as detractors said it would.
replyAnd I think the same will apply here, with GenAI.
We'd all be better off for it. I don't want you to take a shit on the table and call it dinner. Even if you don't cook.
replyIt wouldn't have. I put this off for 11 years, the joke wasn't worth the manual effort required
replyAI is amazing at jumping into an unfamiliar codebase, it was probably 20 mins total work
I think this is false dichotomy. It's been a while since actually empowering and encouraging humans was considered normal and attempted at scale. But not that long. How quick we forget. I think it's worth getting back to.
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