What concerns me about this is that as these stories multiply and circulate people will just completely stop buying software/SAAS from startups, because 90% or more will be this same thing. It will completely kill the market.
replyOracle have routinely had multimillion pound contract failures and people keep buying from them. Big vendors are too big to fail.
replyThose are custom software or heavily customized implementations of ERP and similar systems for very large organizations. I’m talking more about the SMB market where today it’s possible for a small team to carve out a niche and make a nice living or even bootstrap a venture that competes with a large player that has poor UX or antiquated feature designs.
replyThe reason Oracle can continue failing at those massive projects is simple: everyone fails at them routinely and often it’s the customers fault.
I used to gripe about various ERP companies but after having dealt with enough, yeah, that's just what the world of ERP systems is like. You will spend your time even with the best of them desiring to scream endlessly at everyone who works there. And they also know your pain but are powerless to help.
replySame with Deloitte
replyno one's getting fired for hiring either one.
reply> It will completely kill the market.
replyit will kill all the people in that hospital too
What is this, Humanitarian News?
replyThe real Hackers were the ones actually trying to minimize suffering all along. Not reproduce it at scale.
replyBut the Torment Nexus is such an interesting technical challenge! and I don’t personally torment people: I just move protobufs around! - Software Engineer #1 and #2 excuses
replythankyou
replyI mean, the stories about how stuff was getting built in the late 90s/early 2000s aren’t much worse.
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replyOr you end up with a certification process, which will of course introduce it's own problems but startups doing things the right way and not just "moveing fast and breaking things" can thrive.
replyAs a cybersecurity IR professional as much as I hate to see this happen to a hospital this kind of thing is responsible for essentially tripling my income over the last 3 years.
replyThis hospital will learn some hard lessons. I hope their backup strategy is good. I'm surprised they can field software from an entity that isn't SOC2 & HIPAA certified.
replyNo worries! At worst, the contractor can just tell Claude to make sure the hospital knows they're appropriately certified. And the hospital can use Claude to make sure the certs are valid. Everybody wins, except the ones who end up dead. Or with their health destroyed.
reply> from an entity that isn't SOC2 & HIPAA certified
replyWhat do you think the fake Delve attestation scandal was about? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47444319
Have you tried to talk him out of it, and have you considered blowing the whistle on him? He could kill people!
replyWow. This is like every other gold rush. Millions will walk into the ice and snow, somehow not questioning that their ability to dig is not unique.
replyWell, selling shovels has always been a good way to deal with that problem
replyThe shovel sellers are ringing the cash register.
replyThis is going to happen all over. Company I'm currently contracting with has gone AI everything (aka technical debt hell), and they're gonna suffer for it. I'm glad my consulting contract ends in 2 months. I don't want to be around for the crash
replyDon't help him. Let him figure it out by himself, else they (he and hospital) will never learn.
replyA hospital could not learn a bigger lesson from this person than their existing big players.
reply(Screams in "deployed in 2026 a new product that only works in internet explorer" in healthcare).
I don't have time for that. I just told him he needs to hire somebody
replyOr, "help" by asking questions, or otherwise by sharing an AI review/analysis/suggestions, since they're into that kind of thing.
replyDefinitely cleaning up other people's AI mess for them for free is not a good use of time.
I hope you have quoted him a very very high hourly rate.
replyHeaven help us.
replyjfc lmao
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