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Please don't be curmudgeonly on HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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> Don't be curmudgeonly. Thoughtful criticism is fine, but please don't be rigidly or generically negative.

Could you explain how this applies? I don't mean to be difficult -- really. I appreciate that Hacker News is a great place for discussion, and I very much appreciate that's partly because of the work you're doing.

I'd just like to think that my criticism is thoughtful and is neither rigidly nor generically negative: I pointed out specific omissions and offered an analogy to explain the immaturity and cluelessness that I see in the piece -- not just that the claims are wrong but that the perspective is delivered so badly that it's difficul to take seriously. It wasn't meant to be unkind or a swipe; I didn't call names or sneer; it wasn't a generic tangent. It was the best way I could find to characterize the ways the piece's tone and content work together, undermining it and (almost certainly) rubbing people the wrong way.

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> The Greek work biblos, for book, derives from the name of the region of the Levant (Bublos) that produces much of the best paper in the ancient world, until people denuded it, turning it into a desert. Iran and Afghanistan were green when the Hittites and Babylonians were in charge, if I remember correctly.

I was fascinated by this so I looked it up, it's mostly inaccurate, but your larger point remains valid.

1) The Greeks did refer to ancient Lebanon as Byblos, because they bought their paper from the port. The paper was actually made in Egypt and imported there for resale though. They did, and still do, have big trees in Lebanon. They were famous for the cedars. Most of the ancient cedar is long gone, but its still green.

2) Iran and Afghanistan basically have the same climate now they did then. Desert then, desert now. You may be thinking of Iraq. Mesopotamia (Iraq) did destroy the fertile crescent by over irrigating it for too long and basically salting the earth.

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Oof, thanks for the corrections.
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I say this with respect and appreciation for your thoughtful framing, as I also feel for the author:

I'm not a young man, but I believe your this-has-always-been-the-way-ism, is equally clueless, in shared lineage with all the old-dog elders of past who've been helpless to stop what's happening, as the naive fools do the work of imagining it might be otherwise

Blindness goes both ways (a certain type from the end, as from the beginning), and truth is likely somewhere in the middle

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In what way is understanding the historical context in which we live "blindness"?

Correcting someone who believes an old phenomenon is a new phenomenon, is not the same as giving up and saying we should do nothing about said phenomenon. In fact, understanding something is the first and most important step to changing it, especially a pattern or a habit.

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I get into the this conversation a lot, when you point out the obvious historical context to "all this change", the response is always "Oh so you want to do nothing?" or "helpless to stop what's happening". That's not the implication of historical context. But it screams for a change in narrative, we aren't helpless, we live in the greatest time, and it can be even greater.

If we are to continue the march of civilization our algorithmic feed driven mania would just be just a blip. But if we give into the hysteria, I am afraid this is the beginning of the end. Our birth rate is dwindling because people are anxious [1], posts like this are not helping.

[1]: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/07/opinion/birthrate-kids-pa...

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Beginning of the end seems a tad hyperbolic. We aren’t running out of humans.
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We aren't?
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The amount of women having children hasn’t changed since the 80s about 80% the difference is how many they choose to have
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I think you are both saying the same thing?
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Worldwide poverty rate in 1800 = 81%. Today under 10%.

https://cepr.shorthandstories.com/history-poverty/

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Could you expand on this?
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Jonestown, right? Recordings from Jamestown would be quite a big deal.
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Oy, yes, correct, thanks for this.
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> Iran and Afghanistan were green when the Hittites and Babylonians were in charge

I thought this was due to natural climate change?

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> Iran and Afghanistan were green when the Hittites and Babylonians were in charge, if I remember correctly.

What would you say is the secret for people who want to live a long and fulfilling life?

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Probably just "be lucky."
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