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by eichin12 hours ago |
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upvoteby bilegeek10 hours ago|
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Unfortunately, pre-Domain/OS AEGIS is basically lost. One person popped up with talk of imaging their 9.6 floppies, but I haven't seen anything since then.

[1]https://www.facebook.com/groups/retrocomputers/posts/7062462...

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upvoteby FarmerPotato6 hours ago|
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I just received from a retired engineer, a binder of 8” floppies that says Jan 1984, AEGIS 6.0 / Mentor 3.0, Full Backup, WBAK. The owner got them from a dumpster 40 years ago, but suspects someone just reused the binder to store blank floppies. Anyhow I’m working on it.

I’ve also found source for an AEGIS menu system (mouse, hotkeys) written in Forth.

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upvoteby em-bee1 hours ago|
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it's probably not old enough, but in the mid 90s i acquired a working apollo domain workstation that was functioning as a doorstop at a university library. it came with a full set of documentation, but no floppies, i think. i don't know which version, and i don't know if it is still working now. it's gathering dust at my mothers home in europe.
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upvoteby neilv9 hours ago|
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I wonder whether this could still pop up at estate sales, or when a retiree is cleaning out their garage.

Not all gear got junked. When I was a teen intern, I got some obsolete Apollos (and 2 logic analyzers and a terminal) from my employer, and other people were also bringing home gear the company "sold" them.

Somewhere, there might well be an industry or university sysadmin or programmer who brought home a box of old QIC tapes, and one of them says "AEGIS" on the label, and it's in a garage/attic.

Also, rumor has it that at one point Boeing physically archived at least one Apollo network, because they apparently take documentation integrity extremely seriously. If that's true, they might have an engineering librarian or someone who could take an interest in making sure any versions of Aegis/Domain they need (and have preserved media for) can run on emulators or something?

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upvoteby andreww5914 hours ago|
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Yeah, I'd definitely like to see older versions of AEGIS as well
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upvoteby andreww5914 hours ago|
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Yeah, MAME has had working Apollo emulation since around 2010. Domain/OS is definitely pretty odd. You could almost mistake SR10 for a normal functional Unix if you use the SysV or BSD universes rather than the AEGIS one, but while it is clearly Unix-like, it's also quite Multics-like as well and is pretty distinct from the typical functional Unix family.
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upvoteby jerf7 hours ago|
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Not only can you implement that with PTYs, it's how they operate by default. That's why you can telnet to an HTTP server and make a mistake and use backspace to fix it. The terminal will only send lines over. You have to use a command to put it into "raw" mode so the application gets every keystroke immediately. You have to ask for your PTY to not work that way.
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upvoteby compsciphd10 hours ago|
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why could you not implement it as ptys.

Currently the terminal doesn't really process input itself, it just gives the program running the "raw" fd.

If instead the terminal gave the processes a pipe (for instance) and consumed all the pty input itself (and its end of the pipe being a buffer of that content), why wouldn't it be the same?

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upvoteby glhaynes10 hours ago|
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What an amazingly goofy (but also kinda maybe makes sense?) feature!
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