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upvoteby otabdeveloper41 hours ago|
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> is going to drive some incredible discoveries in all of STEM

No it won't. Natural language manipulation is never a bottleneck in STEM.

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upvoteby jesse_dot_id47 minutes ago|
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I do not understand how you can believe that and I'm not really keen on trying to.
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upvoteby Forgeties7943 minutes ago|
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> Imagine if we had banned trains because the robber barons were assholes in the 1830's.

The thing is they don’t control them anymore, governments do by and large now, so a lot of the issues that came with their ownership and special privileges no longer exist. There is no way that is how this is going to go down with Google et al

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upvoteby 52-6F-622 hours ago|
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But you would be banning trains if they were built to just run smack into the centre of town squares loaded with bombs, rendering the cities to dust, as a part of their design and boasted about by the owners.

At least until the maniacally evil train ownership debacle was better organized to prevent such harm in their core application.

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upvoteby jesse_dot_id1 hours ago|
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I think that perhaps your perception of the impacts of data centers is a bit over the top.
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upvoteby esseph1 hours ago|
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There are datacenters all over the place and have been for a very long time. Some of them host physical servers for people and companies, maybe only a literal closet somewhere in a building. Others are giant hyperscaler datacenters that have tons of 24/7 lighting and are the size of multiple football fields.

We need to be very careful here, or we're going to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

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upvoteby jesse_dot_id25 minutes ago|
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That is also my concern. This feels like a Satanic panic type of thing and if people don't form nuanced opinions, politicians will latch on to the issue and before you know it, many people who are heavily reliant on machine learning who don't realize it are going to have a bad time when stuff starts getting banned.
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upvoteby esseph16 minutes ago|
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It 100% feels like a satanic panic type of thing
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upvoteby coldtea2 hours ago|
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>This technology is going to drive some incredible discoveries in all of STEM.

We could do without them.

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upvoteby NiloCK1 hours ago|
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Maybe you're sitting pretty right now, but try posting this from your deathbed, or that of your kid.

The lack of compassion that people display here is shocking to me.

"Don't automate science, because there are junior scientists could be denied the thrill of specific discoveries."

Cancer patients are not accessories to anyone's self-actualization.

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upvoteby mindcrime1 hours ago|
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Tell that to the family of someone who dies a year before one of those discoveries that would have saved their life...
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upvoteby joquarky1 hours ago|
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I guess you don't know anyone who has cancer.
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upvoteby jesse_dot_id1 hours ago|
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We could probably do without computers too, but that would be idiotic because they speed everything up. There's a good chance that the next pandemic is swatted down by LLM-powered vaccine development much faster than COVID-19 was.

"We could do without them." is not a great take when it comes to people dying prematurely.

In fact, I would bet that this particular technology will lead to climate change solutions eventually. If nothing else, it will drive an energy revolution in either nuclear or solar power. Probably too late to solve the AMOC collapse, but mitigation is still in play through science.

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upvoteby otabdeveloper41 hours ago|
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> LLM-powered vaccine development

Good lord!

I hope somebody is documenting all these bombastic LLM-related public statements. They're going to be a neverending source of cringe and laughs for the next 50 years.

(I've heard one C-level dude say with a straight face that LLMs were a "more significant invention than writing".)

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upvoteby jesse_dot_id39 minutes ago|
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You're a Google search away from fact checking me if you want to do that.

I'm a DevOps engineer, not a C suite guy, but I tend to agree with you in general. I think there is a lot of smoke being blown into the hive around this technology but having used it extensively, and having witnessed its progression first hand in engineering, these tools are insanely useful and have made giant leaps forward in just ~4 years.

Don't know if you're a believer in Moore's Law or not, but I don't think your tune is going to take anywhere near 50 years to change. I'd be surprised if it took 5 years.

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upvoteby esseph1 hours ago|
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> Good lord!

>I hope somebody is documenting all these bombastic LLM-related public statements.

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This has been in use for awhile.

https://academic.oup.com/bib/article/26/3/bbaf263/8158336

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12970898/

How it gets used: https://mlconference.ai/blog/ai-in-vaccine-development/

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