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I don't dislike those tropes because they are frequent or because they are not pleasing to read intrinsically. I dislike them because it tells me it was made by AI and AI output varies strongly in quality and most of it is low on insight but rings the right bells to make it seem insightful. It indicates a lack of human care.

Hiding these clues by another AI pass doesn't solve the core problem. Now you just end up with content that camouflaged better but is still equally low in nutritional value.

by asenna46 minutes ago|

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Thanks for this! This is exactly what I was looking for.

Tbh, I have a lot of thoughts and ideas and things to share and I do spend time and effort trying to de-AI-ing it but this should help a lot.

I'll try it out.

In fact, I was expecting getting shit on by HN readers for this but was pleasantly surprised that readers moved past it.

by jaggederest20 minutes ago|

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Yeah I think you'll find these days that there's a lot of respect for substance like what you're doing, even past the noise of the AI. I also use a lot of AI but you really have to demand quality from it, whether it's writing, media, or code. It's clear you've got the taste from your media work, and we're all still learning as we go, so I'm very glad that I could point you in that direction.

by refulgentis19 minutes ago|

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I'm curious: how, exactly, did it go from this is painful to read due to AI, to no one cares about AI use and you demanded quality when you used it and delivered?

by jaggederest17 minutes ago|

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It didn't, it went from "this reeks from AI after edits, here's a tool that can help" to "people can read past it but there are better ways, you must demand quality". I don't think those two things are inconsistent.

by refulgentis16 minutes ago|

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Ah, I see, after he uses the tool it'll be great because he has taste.

by jaggederest14 minutes ago|

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I don't think "if you iterate on this, try using some tools, and ultimately demand that the output meet or exceed your demonstrated taste in other domains" is a hot take, honestly.

by refulgentis12 minutes ago|

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It's not a hot take, you're right, I gravely misunderstood the timing in your post, i.e. you were clearly framing it as after and being polite and encouraging.

I'm more hot about it because it's frustrating having so many HN posts be a place for people to work out first drafts, especially when the first piece of feedback is "hey, uh, you clearly used AI and it's horrible to read as a result." So easy to avoid...good on you for being kinder.

(part of my frustration is I was excited because I write an local LLM client and thought I missed Gemma 4 has streaming video input support, but after reading through the slop it turns out its just the ol' "extract frames" workflow. tbf that would have happened AI or not, but put me in a mood)

by refulgentis19 minutes ago|

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They haven't: this is the top thread, and the entire threads is saying its unreadable and explaining step by step how to do the basics you should have done before you posted. I'm not sure why you're pleasantly surprised, I would have expected embarrassed, and taken down the HN post to get at least the basics down before sharing it under my name (if possible, dunno how HN submissions work)

by asenna7 minutes ago|

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Unfortunately will have to disappoint you, can't get embarrassed easily. In fact when all of this worked well locally, felt pretty proud ngl.