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> But in any event, Porsche sold more cars in 2025 in North America, than any year prior.

Porsche sells about as many cars every year as Ferarri has sold in its entire existence. I'm not sure that's a strong indicator of whether or not it "brand" (AKA public perception) is doing well or not. Clearly Ferarri has a strong brand than Porsche, despite only selling 330,000 cars in the past 80 years. And despite Porsche selling 310,000 in 2024 alone.

Yes they have very different business models. But it would be like using "number of Window's licenses sold" to argue that Microsoft has a really strong brand right now.

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Which is why I was comparing Porsche's 2025 sales data with its own prior years' sales data and not with Ferrari's sales data. Year over year is a reasonable proxy for brand staying power, especially given that the product mix didn't change all that much (except that the 718 series were put on hold, which one would expect would make it worse, not better).

"While loyalty has fallen slightly since last year’s study, some brands held strong with buyers. Porsche was the top premium car brand with a 58.2 percent loyalty rate, followed by Mercedes-Benz with a 49.7 percent rate. Lexus ranked highest in the premium SUV segment, with BMW a close second."

https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/cars/news-blog/j-d-power-p...

For Microsoft, number of licenses sold year-over-year would be relevant.