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Having watched people use these kinds of tools, it feels like trying to tell an intern to do a project.

Except with an intern, hopefully there's personal development and you only have to be very specific a few times. And the intern's manager gets good feels for helping someone grow, and maybe it's a hiring pipeline.

If I'm going to have to do that for everything, I would rather just do the work myself.

I have seen some sessions with let's call it over agressive autocomplete... That's mildly tempting, but I'm happy with my disintegrated development environment, and it doesn't have any way to do autocomplete at all, so that's not happening for me either.

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Current SOTA is far past "agressive autocomplete" at this point, more like ask for a PR for a small feature and its done... I guess for me the fun is you can build a lot yourself, without relying on others. I hear you for the social aspect though & thanks for sharing your pov.
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If you just like talking and some program comes out (aka "business problem solving") you might like it.

If you like coding (aka "problem solving"), it feels like crap.

And if you like still having an IT job in a couple of years, it feels like dangerous crap.

(Of course you can be hoping you'll be the one selected, out of millions laid off, to get to keep working on a higher level).

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Perhaps its the apprehension/anxiety that makes it feel bad then? I like coding (building things) and couldn't care less about businesses, and am having a great time. In the current state of AI, mass layoffs probably won't happen. But I guess its a bit scary that we don't know how much more it will improve...
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> the current state of AI, mass layoffs probably won't happen.

I’m sorry, what? Have you been paying any attention at all to the state of the industry lately?

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I wasn't clear enough, I was replying to "you'll be the one selected, out of millions laid off," in context I meant "mass layoff" as in "95% of everyone is out of a job permanently".
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I’d probably let go of the employees who decline using agentic tools first, tbh. All things being equal.
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And that's the problem.

The companies that agree with you will be at an interesting place when they have piles of AI slop code and no talented developers.

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> have you tried working seriously with claude code or gpt codex and which part of it did you not enjoy?

I haven't. But I found myself, to my surprise, not particularly interested in trying; which makes me wonder what motivates other developers if not peer pressure or demands for more productivity. I find coding interesting and fulfilling enough to do it on my own. I do ask LLMs questions from time to time, but for that, even a chatgpt or a gemini in a browser tab is enough.

The best experience I had so far is with code reviews, when the models pointed out my mistakes. But I haven't yet gotten to the point where I would want them to write code for me.

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