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Is the fan turning on often? Is it very loud?

From my research on Macbook alternatives only the Zenbooks looked like almost-an-even-match to me. Curious what's your experience with day-to-day fan noise and heat.

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I know someone with a modern Zenbook and it sounds like a jet engine at all times, battery life is awful too.
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From a quick search online, the max brightness of your laptop is 400 nits SDR and 500 HDR. My M5 MacBook Pro is 1000 and 1500 nits.

Screen brightness is not something I will compromise on after having a taste of greatness.

I personally wouldn't mind spending 30-40% more for a Linux laptop with similar qualities + repairability. But I will not settle for something much more expensive and worst in some aspects.

There are also arguments agains repairability in Framework's laptop. I did the calculations and for the Framework 16, it would be cheaper to buy a gaming Asus laptop and throw it out in a couple years to replace it versus buying a framework and upgrading it. Utter insanity.

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The Macbook Neo is about 500 nits but I'd bet the Asus laptop was more than $600 base.

Looks like the Framework laptops depend on model/screen, between 4-500 but with the new 13 pro hitting 700 nits. For a user replaceable screen, and backwards compatibility (I think), that's pretty solid.

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The Framework philosophy was never that it was going to be cheaper.
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> The fan noise and battery life are worse than Apple.

That's the main issue for me. I am on M1 Max 32GB RAM. Except for local LLMs, there is absolutely nothing that gets even close to the performance limits of this device. As a result, all the work I do is performed in perfect silence. Very occasionally the device would get warm, never hot. Based on my usage, I could probably go for an Air model, except for how many external screens it supports.

Zero-noise is non-negotiable for me. It's lamentable how absolutely no-one comes even close.

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