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I'm no suggesting Ads are bad, I'm suggesting Meta is.

Without Meta - people would spend their time doing other things - and your ad-volume in those other areas of attention would increase.

Also - Meta is grabbing your profits.

They have more market power than you - they force you to compete for attention on their platform, they skim all the surplus.

Advertising is ruthlessly inefficient, and the way Google/Meta do it is much worse.

1) targeting / relevance is poor 2) ads are poorly designed with bad messaging 3) powerful value chain actors (Meta, Google, YouTube) disintermediate and consume all of the value of a given activity, which is probably not an efficient distribution of power.

I searched for 'Midjourney' and the first placement says 'Midjourney' right on the title of the link and then on the landing page it says 'Midjorney' - alas, that was not my 'Midjourney' account from 6 months ago

In a weakened state of mind, just trying to get some 'other thing done' I fell down the path of 'legal and supported deception'.

All of that is gigantic waste - it's a 'lose-lose' war over attention like nations fighting over scarce resources.

And because it generates money it 'looks like' economic productivity, in the way that 'massive healthcare expenditures' and even 'wartime economy' seem positive for the GDP but they might be signs of civic degradation.

by embedding-shape2 hours ago|

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So I'm still not entirely clear what you want here, are you saying "Ban every company like Meta" or specifically "Ban Meta"? Or does what you say apply equally to Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Reddit, Bluesky and every other public social media network? Or some are worse than others?

> All of that is gigantic waste - it's a 'lose-lose' war over attention like nations fighting over scarce resources.

Maybe for others, for us it was quite literally "When we put photos of our food, others who didn't know about our restaurant will see it, and some of those come to our restaurant", not more or less than that, no "wars about attention" or what not, just "look at pretty photo, come eat if you want".

I understand and agree there is a larger conversation to be had about all of this too, I'm just failing to see how it's related to Meta banning our account and ultimately not letting us get access to the account again, as we couldn't talk with a human at Meta.

by jmye3 hours ago|

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Why are you assuming GP is saying literally anything other than "Ban Meta"? It's maybe a dubious response, but there's no reason to conflate social media with advertising via websites other than to try to create false cover for Meta.

by embedding-shape2 hours ago|

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I guess I was assuming GP was making a larger statement than literally just "Ban Meta" as that'd be oddly specific, they must be talking about "social media" at large, or the very least "social media like Facebook does it", at least that's my charitable take on what they wrote, I might have misassumed indeed.