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by zuzululu21 hours ago |
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upvoteby josevalim21 hours ago|
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> some stuff being sold as "all these libs/packages that haven't had any updates for over a year is fine because Elixir" I just don't buy it

I maintain more than 20 packages and, except for the major ones, like Phoenix and Ecto, they haven't been updated in more than a year and yes, they are all fine.

The language has been extremely stable. There has been almost no breaking changes in over a decade. Case in point: we introduced a whole gradual type system without making any changes to the language surface! The language is still on v1.x!

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upvoteby jeremyjh21 hours ago|
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So you prefer language communities where libraries have a constant stream of fixes, new breaking change releases every six months and entirely new framework ecosystems ascending every three years?
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upvoteby zuzululu2 hours ago|
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Yes because it addresses security vulnerabilities and remains competitive.

You think all software breaks every 6 months, what happened Im curious

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upvoteby hosh20 hours ago|
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Not to mention language communities with constant supply chain attacks because its standard library story is poor, and everyone keeps reinventing new, often half-baked solutions?

Or even that, the very same ecosystem congratulates themselves on the typing system but still relies on linters because the language and runtime themselves allow whole categories of dumb ideas to be written?

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upvoteby dqv20 hours ago|
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You can buy it if you use discernment. Obviously you'll run into compatibility issues in certain situations - like you aren't going to be able to use a library coupled to Phoenix 1.3 functionality in a Phoenix 1.8 project, but I continue to be surprised at how I can add a package like https://hex.pm/packages/deep_merge, which is 6 years old and it works just fine.
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upvoteby arcanemachiner20 hours ago|
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Phoenix is the exception to the usual rule. It's the only Elixir package where I've encountered substantial friction during upgrades.

Unfortunate, since it's one of the flagship Elixir packages, but I think the upgrades are worth the trouble. Better to improve something than to leave it broken solely for the sake of legacy compatibility IMO.

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upvoteby NuclearPM20 hours ago|
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Why would packages need to be updated?
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