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by com2kid15 hours ago |
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upvoteby dyauspitr14 hours ago|
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It’s like the greatest teacher. Plus it’s not toxic like social media. Banning it would be a shame.
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upvoteby samrus14 hours ago|
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Its not teaching. These people cant pass a the class. They never went through the friction needed to learn
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upvoteby cpncrunch14 hours ago|
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It depends how you use it. You can either get it to explain a concept, or do your homework for you. Its a bit like the decision students have to make as to whether to review their material before exams or go out partying.

Overall it just seems like a huge waste of money to piss away the huge tuition cost your parents probably paid.

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upvoteby blululu14 hours ago|
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You can use an llm to get out of doing homework but you can also use it to ask every question you would ever wanted in a 1-1 tutoring session. The problem is kids will use it to cheat on their homework. If we can’t deal with that problem then a ban is necessary. But these things can be phenomenal teachers if you use them properly.
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upvoteby beej7114 hours ago|
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As an educator, this is exactly what I struggle with. I'm pulling out all the stops to give students every chance to do the hard work and not lean on AI. But there's a good chunk of the class who don't listen to reason. I haven't figured it out yet. They know, logically, they can't pass an interview, but that's apparently a "tomorrow" problem.

The smart ones either use it not at all, or use it to positive effect, like you're saying.

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upvoteby superloika4 hours ago|
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> But there's a good chunk of the class who don't listen to reason. I haven't figured it out yet. They know, logically, they can't pass an interview, but that's apparently a "tomorrow" problem.

These people should be doing manual work, not intellectual work. There is no shortage of manual work available.

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upvoteby curun1r11 hours ago|
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This.

It's funny that GP mentioned science fiction as a negative because what immediately springs to mind, for me, is Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age. We literally have the tools to build his "Young Lady's Illustrated Primer" today. We just have to give today's AI a lesson plan to follow and ensure that it never gives the student the answers, and only keeps explaining the concepts in different ways until they click. Wrap that in an iPad app and you've essentially got the exact self-paced learning tool that Stephenson envisioned changing the world.

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upvoteby Sharlin9 hours ago|
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And how do you propose that to work if the internet is still full of AI services that just give you the answer or write your essay? The only way an Illustrated Primer can work if you can’t trivially cheat. Which is to say, it solves nothing compared to the current situation.
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upvoteby Jtarii4 hours ago|
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For every 1 child that uses AI to learn, there are 10 that will use it to bypass learning. It isn't worth it.
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upvoteby beezlewax12 hours ago|
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Social media wasn't always toxic at least not to the degree it is today. LLMs could be potentially a lot worse given the right set of instructions
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upvoteby bulbar14 hours ago|
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They are great for self-teaching and great to cheat and not learn anything, depending on how you use them.

Main problem is that the technology was very disruptive for education and nobody has figured out yet how to utilize it at scale for schools and universities.

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upvoteby enoeht12 hours ago|
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ban has always been the failing option
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upvoteby amelius11 hours ago|
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Tell that to millions of ex-smokers.
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upvoteby sublinear13 hours ago|
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I can't agree. That's similar to past arguments for banning books and the internet.

Plagiarism isn't new, and those things enabled it too.

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upvoteby hanzeweiasa15 hours ago|
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