In February this year Herb tweaked a test case. That was his last commit to his "CPP2 syntax experiment". Don't expect it to "become a standard".
replyThat's a shame! It's a lovely language.
replyIs it really, though, or is it just in comparison to C++?
replyTbh I never expected that experiment to go anywhere. I guess that leaves Carbon (and large scale efforts to rewrite C++ in Rust).
I personally really like the syntax and the defaults, and I like it more than the C++ alternatives.
replyWhat type of project actually uses C++ 23 modules in real life? What kind of toolchain enables that? When I worked on Chromium, they were indefinitely in the "maybe in 5-10 years the tooling will be ready" camp.
replyThe tooling people have - as of about a year ago said they are ready. Now everyone who considers themselves early adopters is using then. Most are waiting for the early adopters to figure out what the best practices are so we don't make a mess
replyWhat early adopters are using them? Because my impression is the tooling still isn’t there
replyPeople using Visual C++ with MSBuild, or clang with CMake and ninja.
replyCMake says they are there. Other tools mostly are not.
replyNobody has said they are using them in anything important, but hopefully that is coming.
CMake has support for named modules but does not support header units or C++23 module features such as import std;
replyImport std has been there for a while but is experimental until gcc supports it. Gcc just for that support so it should be mainline soon.
replyC++20 is pretty common and gives you already a pretty nice engineering experience.
replyYC startup. Toolchain was Clang and sh.
replyChromium is gonna be more conservative than that for sure.
Looked up what C++23 Modules were and I must say I was not let down.
reply>I'm anxious for Herb Sutter's CPP2/CPPFront to become a standard.
replyWhy? It doesn't remove complexity, it (partially) hides it and makes the whole thing even more complex.
I enjoy the syntax and the defaults he picked, and it matches the way I use C++. I prefer it to all the C/C++ alternatives.
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