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This is like how 95% of SUVs are basically just minivans with a slightly different body. You have to research to find one with a truck engine that can say, haul a travel trailer. Another one that comes to mind is shutters on windows. People like the look but they’re just planks of wood in the vast majority of cases now.
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> People like the look [of shutters] but they’re just planks of wood in the vast majority of cases now.

I'm confused, what are real window shutters then?

Or do you mean the kind that are attached to the wall and don't actually close?

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.. and here I am wanting better minivan options that can pull a travel trailer.
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And here I am just wanting station wagons to come back, and be reasonably priced.

The towing numbers are always higher in Europe than US too, despite being the same cars (as far as I know).

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> The towing numbers are always higher in Europe than US too, despite being the same cars (as far as I know).

Mostly due to differences in environment, AFAIK. Americans drive faster, and towing instability seems to increase with the square of the speed. Also, most travel trailers in the US wouldn't be car-towable anyway, because we have expectations on amenities and size that are predicated on using at least a half-ton pickup for the tow vehicle. Trailers with the compromises needed to be towed European-style aren't popular, so it becomes a self-reinforcing cycle.

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