For one, they invested in infrastructure. They can build fast and efficiently. They can provide power, they can provide cooling. Even if you just make roads better you make everything more efficient. Plus level of standard education. It all compounds.
replyOn HN China is seen as a cheap labor copycat. This used to be a fair approximation at some point in the past. In my opinion China is getting ahead of everyone else much more than US used to be.
SF is a beautiful thing in the US, vast power and wealth comes from there. Smart people collaborating communicating and building fast and with excitement. China did SF kind of thing for many different sectors in many different places.
Throwing out another factor: Chinese companies have been banned and/or limited from buying nvidia, and turned to local companies for their hardware. I haven't actually seen pricing/benchmarks comparing Chinese AI accelerators, but it wouldn't surprise me if that also worked out in their favor as well.
replyAnd, possibly, state subsidies at every level.
replyLower cost of labor, lots of under the hood optimizations (e.g. cache hits for DS), many of these companies have existing infra (fewer upfront costs for deployment), etc
replyChina isn't that cheap for labor. And if you think the guys in Z.ai or xiaoxiao aren't the exact same guys from Tsinghua, Peking, MIT, Stanford, CMU, etc. and pulling in amazing salaries you'd be wrong.
replyI'd assume there's more to the cost of labor than the salaries of the elite folks who do the R&D, but fair point
replyMaybe not being led by a sociopath also helps.
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