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> Once they define it as stealing, then it's morally indefensible, by definition.

Right, similar to the equivocation around the meaning of earn in this thread. I've started to wonder whether it's possible to push by accepting that framing and then asking for a justification rather than quibbling about what "stealing" is.

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I doubt it. "Stealing" functions as a thought-terminating cliche; I suspect that very few people will think past it.
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I fear you are right, but I feel like trying it anyway.
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