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There is a phrase "Shoot, shovel, shutup" used in the US whenever anything is found on private property (usually endangered animals) that the government has an interest in protecting/restricting. The owners will destroy it immediately and before anyone finds out so that they don't lose their property rights. Thus you have the unintended consequences that these regulations accelerate rather than mitigate their destruction.

by Torkel2 hours ago|

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Fun fact: back in 1600s the Swedish government wanted to make our old history grander than perhaps it had been. As part of that they instituted a law that if you find gold or ancient things on your grounds you would be paid more than the worth of it if you brought it in: https://www.icomos.se/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/1666-Placat...

It lead to many treasures reaching museums etc instead of being melted down! It's still in effect, and still pays higher-than-melting prices: https://www.raa.se/kulturarv/arkeologi-fornlamningar-och-fyn...

by 0xblinq1 hours ago|

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There’s a reason Nordic countries do so well and are a real “first world”. They’re smart. In the good sense.

by thaumasiotes51 minutes ago|

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> As part of that they instituted a law that if you find gold or ancient things on your grounds you would be paid more than the worth of it if you brought it in

> It's still in effect, and still pays higher-than-melting prices

But the melting price of an ancient bronze sword is nothing. Most ancient artifacts have no material value.

by ourmandave4 hours ago|

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Well that's not going to work on bigger animals (e.g. buffalo) as you can only carry back 100 lbs at per hunt.

by khazhoux3 hours ago|

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The plan also fails miserably with elephants, giraffes, and rhinos.

by MAustriaGA3 hours ago|

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In the Pacific Northwest the liberals delayed a $4.5 billion project for a bridge and HOV lanes (SR 520) due among other things to the Marbled Murrelet bird and a few owls. Not unexpectedly, that project took 30 years from conception to finish.

But at least they finished it. Of the original San Francisco-to-Los Angeles high-speed rail system, Newsom has spent $14.8B over the past 18 years and it has zero operational miles of fast train.

There is a high probability that Elon will be reporting that from Mars to make a point LOL

by palmotea3 hours ago|

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That's why all civilizations need to proactively obliterate any durable structures and artifacts they create on a regular basis. Destroy everything in that sweet spot where it's old junk that no one cares about' nothing should survive long enough to become valuable due to its antiquity.

If you don't leave anything behind, future generations can just build without caution, because the past will forever be shrouded in mystery. Let's not repeat ancient civilizations' mistakes.