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I have been riding a Panasonic "Gyutto" [1] for about 10 years. I bought it when I had young kids, as it's designed to hold two child seats (one on the back, and one on the handle bars). Now that they've grown up I've replaced the child seats with baskets and use it for commuting every day and grocery shopping.

The thing is an absolute tank - the only parts I've had replace are the tires and brake pads. And the design is really simple with all of the consumable parts being easy to replace. At about $1,400 USD, it's not cheap, but I'm shocked at how long it's lasted and how little maintanence it's needed.

Definitely not "cool" - but one of the best purchases I've ever made.

1. https://cycle.panasonic.com/products/gyutto_croomr_ex/

by frantathefranta1 hours ago|

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Pretty sure at $1,400 it's cheaper than most worthwhile eBikes on the market.

by jjice6 hours ago|

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I think it's a generally good place to start when buying anything, especially anything of high value. You want to be able to truly own it, which includes maintaining and repairing it.

Now of course there are areas you can make trade offs. A lot of people like MacBooks despite them not supporting other operating systems very well and Apple still mostly being hardasses about outside repair, but they come with good performance and battery life.

Making sure to keep maintainability in mind when making a product decision is critical to making an informed purchase.

by asimovDev5 hours ago|

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app is a big point. i was apalled by the fact that the app for the bike (in the video) could no longer connect / authenticate with the bike

i have a e-scooter and judging by the decompiled code it's some sort of chinese e-scooter reskinned by a european company. I know the app is not going to be around for long, so I slowly been trying to make my own.

by uproarchat5 hours ago|

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>PS: I now ride a Fixie

Fixies are the way to go. Less parts, less things to break. Very Unix-y.

by kjkjadksj2 hours ago|

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All the fixie bros say this but my road bike takes basically no maintenance at all. Even when it does, adjusting the derailleurs is a 5 second task with a small Phillips head. Relubing the chain takes 2 minutes. Brakes only needed adjusting when the brake lines were brand new and still stretching and this was also maybe a 30 second task. Rest of maintenance you’d have to do like bb, repacking hub or steerer grease, etc, you’d have to do with a fixie too.

I’ll take my mechanical advantage with gearing.

by uproarchat1 hours ago|

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different spokes for different folks :)

by DANmode13 hours ago|

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> I now ride a Fixie

With a conversion kit? ^_^

by thenthenthen9 hours ago|

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When building my bikes I quickly found out that are no standard parts.

by kjkjadksj2 hours ago|

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There was a sweet spot where there was. My road bike frame is from the 80s or 90s. It was built for downtube shifting, but now it has brifters. It has mixed shimano group parts from a maybe 2 decade span of time. Quill adapter to use modern handlebars made over the last 2 decades. Pretty standardized 8 speed stuff.