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by embedding-shape5 hours ago |
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upvoteby estearum5 hours ago|
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I don't see how your comment makes sense. You're not part of any "community" but you also never play with random strangers?

I only play public matches with random strangers and this is the feeling.

Obviously this wouldn't apply if I had a small community of not-strangers to play with consistently, which you do have but oddly describe as not having a community.

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upvoteby falcor844 hours ago|
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Well, while every group of people is definitionally "a community", you can absolutely have your friend group not be part of "the community" of the game. Just like you can have a LAN and not be "on the net", watch implies the internet.
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upvoteby estearum1 hours ago|
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Uhh if you are playing games consistently with your friends, then they are a community that you're playing with.

If what GP is saying is "play with people you know personally and then you won't have to play with people you don't know personally," well, sure. Great insight.

Most people don't and can't do that. That's why online matchmaking exists and constitutes 99.999999% of online gameplay.

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upvoteby blks3 hours ago|
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I think by “community” he meant the whole community of a particular game, where you communicating with people, consuming same content, get influenced, etc
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upvoteby estearum1 hours ago|
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The vast majority of people don't fall into the category you're describing, but they nonetheless have to compete against the very few people who do, and so larger and larger proportions end up falling into the same "meta" bullshit.
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upvoteby kridsdale14 hours ago|
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He could be playing with his real friends.
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upvoteby estearum1 hours ago|
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"Real friends" is also known as "a community."
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upvoteby kbelder3 hours ago|
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What? I don't... understand...
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upvoteby s1artibartfast2 hours ago|
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Doesn't match making and self-selection solve this problem?

Ideally, it should allow non-competitive players of similar performance level to play against each other.

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upvoteby estearum1 hours ago|
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Not really, because there are players at every level who watch Youtube. So at every level of skill, those players who are up to date on the latest "meta" will win. Not enough to beat the meta players at the next level up, but enough to beat the non-meta players at their own level.
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upvoteby ffsm81 hours ago|
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The bigger issue is that these springengine games don't really have large communities. And they're usually team battles... So yeah, you're not getting 8-16 people with similar elo rating within reasonable timeframes
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upvoteby im3w1l53 minutes ago|
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In the equilibrium those playing the meta poorly will be matched with players who use suboptimal strategies with good execution.
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upvoteby estearum44 minutes ago|
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Yes, correct.

Which think about what that feels like: getting semi-consistently beaten by worse players who just all "happen to have" the exact same loadout and exact same strategies and exact same everything.

That's exactly what I'm describing. It's incredibly boring.

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