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I don't think you can assume your identity was compromised. I know the Facebook denial dialog suggests that "unusual activity" was detected and you need to access it via your mobile device. Of course as you know that doesn't help.

I signed on for Meta enhanced support for a month (nb, don't bother doing this, it's a waste of money) and had numerous voice calls with pandering support people who assured me it had nothing to do with identity and everything to do with vague "Community Standards violations" that can't be identified. FWIW the restrictions are indefinite and can't be appealed.

FB is set up like it's based on the film "Brazil" mated with Sartre's "No Exit."

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I do strange things, so it's possible that the cause has to do with some quirk of my behavior while closing the account in 2011, or while attempting to reopen it in 2026, and not somebody else's behavior in the interim.

I don't really care about facebook, I found a buyer for the thing. I'm just saying that the use of biometrics is bad engineering because it amplifies the severity of adjacent bugs to "blocker". Starting over with a new identity should be painful enough to discourage bad behavior, but it should be possible to enable users who do strange things sometimes to navigate the system.

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Meta, obviously the same company, has four separate pages that handle the creation of a “page” for a business.

They all prompt for the same information to do the same job.

You are required to make one of these “pages” to be able to advertise on any Meta property.

None of them work, and they have non-functional error handling. And if you keep trying, getting zero feedback about what’s wrong, you get the “scan your face and give us your biometric data” wall.

As such I cannot advertise on Instagram. Like, I can’t give them money, even when I try. It’s impossible that I’m the only one in the world, and it’s costing them money. Directly.

You would think that with their infinite AI resources they would be able to recognize problems, identify the source, and unfuck themselves… right?

In days, not years… right?

At least that’s what we’re told. But it seems reality doesn’t quite agree.

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It's actually real that a ton of businesses must resort to shady providers of "Ads account" for legitimate stuff, nowadays it's very hard to join Facebook, if you didn't have an account made the past years, it's likely that you can't signup and run your business on it, you have to use illegal methods.
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What illegal methods work? I'd like to post again (non-commercially)
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I tried to make an account while forgetting my VPN was engaged. Another US IP address but one from a block of IPs I’m sure is used for nefarious purposes. So because I briefly shared an IP block with ne’erdowells, I am, without an option to appeal, banned from interacting with Facebook forever.

Google Ads is ghosting me too. I really could get behind legislation that requires companies to have a human point of contact in these cases, but I guess a private company has the right to ignore people they don’t want as customers.

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I made an account on LinkedIn while forgetting my VPN was enabled and set up my profile. They immediately flagged me as suspicious and restricted my account, and demanded I upload an ID to remove the restriction, to which I complied and they lifted the restriction. Then about a month later I tried to add my sibling as a connection and they didn't get any notification, then my sibling tried to search up my name to add me and I wasn't showing as a search result. Seems I was shadowbanned even after providing my ID, which seems insane to me that the main professional social network can just do that to someone without due process or any indication. This type of thing could sabotage someone's entire professional career or ruin their self-confidence as everyone ignores all of their messages and activity
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    but I guess a private company has the right to ignore people they don’t want
    as customers.
The problem is the monopolistic power these companies have.
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If you are a business that wants to advertise, there’s not much out there besides Meta and Google, so if they don’t pick up the phone, I guess we just won’t advertise online (back to radio spots and the local newspaper which for a small shop is fine I guess)
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I've been lured to more local businesses with radio spots and coupon booklets in the mail than Meta/Google ads. Probably an outlier, but still.

Edit: Oh, also comments on reddit r/$cityname recommending a local business are quite useful/effective. They might be botted to hell at this point, but I've never had a bad experience.

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So, Meta are certainly happy to take advertiser money (except when they aren't, apparently), and demonstrably triple-digit-billion-dollars worth of people are happy to pay them, so something somewhere must be working, but I still don't understand...

...who the hell buys anything from Facebook ads? I never have, no-one I know ever has. Is my bubble seriously that strong?

I admit, I do click on Facebook ads every so often. This likely means Meta gets paid, and also some number somewhere goes up which means I get shown more of the kind of things I click on. This is how I end up seeing adverts for hi-vis vests for poultry, radioactive pendants (sturdy titanium, reliably glows for 25 years!), tungsten cubes and so on; because I see them and I think "what the actual..." and I click, because you can comment on Facebook adverts and maybe there is some kind of sanity to be found; and, as expected, the comments are full of confused people saying "what the actual..." none of whom are any more likely to buy the product than me.

Has anyone here, but especially of the people considering using Facebook to advertise their product/service, ever bought anything from a Facebook ad? What was it?

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I know two people who have sold on FB Marketplace, so apparently it works. I login to FB about 3 times a year and get icked out almost immediately. I refuse to install FB on my phone, because Zuck snoops on the people you share phone calls with.

Craiglist has served me well in the past.

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Stop using Facebook. It's really that simple.

Found the guy who's never heard of "shadow profiles."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_profile

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They didn't say delete your FB account. They just said to stop using it.
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You use Facebook whether you use Facebook, or not. That's how shadow profiles work.

This has nothing to do with deleting accounts.

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I agree shadow profiles are a huge problem, but I suspect they're not worth much to Meta in terms of revenue. You can't show ads to a shadow profile, for example. Best way to hurt them financially is to just log off.
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I suspect they're not worth much to Meta in terms of revenue.

I think they're probably worth quite a bit, or Meta wouldn't spend billions acquiring and maintaining the data.

And as we know, in the valley there are always more and more customers for data, personal and otherwise.

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I bought my last car on Craigslist. It was quite pleasant and I like the car. Not that there isn't garbage/scams there, but there's garbage on marketplace too (more, to my eye). I make a point to always go to Craigslist first. It still exists, and it's kicking!
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OfferUp also has a ton, as does AutoTempest and even good old fashioned AutoTrader. I'm currently shopping for my son.

Facebook seems to have the lowest cost cars, but it also seems to be the least successful way of contacting people. When I bought a car for my sister in April, I contacted (no exaggeration) 70+ sellers and heard back from about ten of them. And yes, I changed the default "Is it still available?" message to something demonstrating urgency e.g. "I have cash and would like to buy." But with persistence, I found her the right car through Marketplace. Really hate the FBook search interface though, it's total garbage.

I spend most of my time looking on CList and OfferUp.

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I had the exact same experience. Never used Facebook. Wanted to create a page for a product. Suspended. Did the face scan. Now they have my face and I'm still suspended. Absolute joke. Zuckerberg can go suck a fat one.
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I had the same thing, tried to set up an instagram account for a website I run. It locked me out instantly and asked for a face photo; after I uploaded it it went to review; after about 40 minutes that brand new instagram account was permanently suspended for posting content which breaches the terms of service, with no appeal possible. It did let me download the full account data which of course had nothing in it and no further info about why it got permabanned.

It is obvious something is broken but they are quite good at blocking you from accessing any possible avenue of support once the account is in this state.

On the off chance someone from Meta is reading: Please unban the account "rareboc" :-)

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When a xiaomi 15 phone asks to scan your face for phone unlock, it specifically warns that a photo of you may be sufficient to unlock the phone. Not sure how it works with other brands/models, but i don’t think the way they are doing face verification is the right way to do it
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Apple's devices use an IR depth scanner, not the camera, and do not expose the data to software.
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That happened to me to! A similar moment of weakness: I got tired of being locked out of like half of small business profiles. A local brewery (very small brewery, but top tier beers) posts on instagram if they’ll even be open that day.

Caved, tried to sign up, asked for my face, then rejected me forever.

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Same thing happened to me. Except I created a new Facebook account using my work email. I had to use my personal Facebook account. Meta has become so awful.
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we programmatically created a system with implicit trust and now that trust is washing away. business logic should probably be guaranteed and have to pass a series of tests in order to provide expected service
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Hmm, that also happened to me. Scan face, account lost forever?
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It should also be noted Facebook does nothing in good faith because Zuckerberg's core personality is what it is

It isn't that biometrics might never make sense but when it comes to Facebook? He's a black hat hacker who deserves prison

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At the very least, we need to outlaw the method of corporate governance that Meta (and increasingly, other tech companies) use.

Mark has an absolute majority of shares at Meta at around 61% [0]. It is literally impossible for the board or other shareholders to cause him to do anything he doesn't want to do or to make him work in the best interests of others, whether they be other shareholders or the public. Meta is more-or-less a sole proprietorship with window dressing.

If no one can force a company to change by anything short of a person's passing or their loss of interest, then it's not really governed, and cannot be trusted to operate within the market and society at large. We need to make these organizations accountable to others in the systems in which they participate.

[0] https://www.investopedia.com/articles/insights/082216/top-9-...

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To the downvoter: please note Facebook used email passwords. Zuckerberg hacked Crimson reporters who were investigating him circa 2003. I mean what I said. Why do you have the 500 karma necessary to do that?
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I'd push back on your theory that the problem is your biometrics having been abused by a third party (rather than merely being abused by Faceboot...). I'd say the base incentive is that they really don't care about adding new users, so their false positive rate is set way too high. They think you need them more than they need you. And for Faceboot Marketplace they're probably right (about 3-4x the selection of Craigslist IME, and a corresponding difference in interested buyers). I'll still browse and post things on Craigslist, and when I see something for sale on both I'll respond with the Craigslist method to support its mindshare (also straightforward email/SMS is a heck of a lot easier than having to use Faceboot Messenger and then nudge the conversation over to SMS for the actual meetup).
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