> Kimi and GLM models have coined a new term: Thinkslop.
> [...]
> So for now I'm happy with just two models: GPT and DeepSeek.
reply1. DeepSeek V3.2, V4 Flash, V4 Pro, at high or max thinking, ... when recommending a model it should always be a precise model, not just an AI lab
2. DeepSeek V4 Flash at max thinking is the most verbose model (among top models) in the AA benchmarks. See the "Intelligence Index Token Use" chart: [1]
[1]: https://artificialanalysis.ai/models?models=gpt-5-5-high%2Cg...
I said specifically V4 Pro. Flash is not the most verbose, that's more likely to be Kimi.
replyyeah Kimi K2.7 was doing ok but was painfully slow. The coding plan limits were good though.
replyI haven't tried deepseek yet, i should check this one out.
After the release of K2.7, the Kimi plan quotas have been reduced by about 80%.
replyTurning up the thinking (max time spent thinking) lever really changes model performance, even for tiny models. But it's really irritating because it adds a lot of time.
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