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Here's a Ken Livingstone quote from the foreword of "Drama Games: For Those Who Like To Say No":

> In the early 1980s, when the GLC (Greater London Council) was trying to save and create jobs to mitigate the impact of Thatcher's recession, we discovered that the most labour-intensive form of public spending was the arts, and so during the five years from 1981 to 1986 we increased spending on arts and recreation from £l6 million to £160 million. Virtually every actor, painter, poet, sculptor and, in particular, community artist was in work, and it made London a much more exciting city to live in. As well as taking orchestras from the Royal Festival Hall to play in the canteen at Ford's Assembly Plant in Dagenham, we particularly tried to reach disaffected youth. It's against that background that I was able to understand Chris Johnston's book. (Oh, and by the way, if you want to know which is the least labour-intensive form of public spending, it is the military.)

Maybe if we stopped pushing insane amounts of money into fossil fuels and the military industrial complex, and instead redirected it into the arts and sciences then, just maybe, we might actually end up with a happier, more employed, more fulfilled, and more equal planet.

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What do you think NASA is? NASA is so expensive because it's a jobs program. There's no other reason for Boeing to have factories in so many states for building satellites.
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You're not wrong, and no one is turning down NASA contracts, but the scale isn't comparable.

NASA buys mostly highly specialized parts that can be pretty narrow in scope and utility.

OTOH the DoD will buy 150,000 aluminum water canteens, which is probably the only thing keeping the one decent job in Wagatah, Maine from closing. Which happens to be of only a handful of shops in the country with the tooling for this. Wagatah, of course, is not known for it's aerospace engineering. But thankfully water is pretty important for soldiers, and the new design is x% more efficient, so Wagatah gets another 5 years of work, the DoD gets to keep a domestic source of water canteens, and if NASA needs 5 space grade aluminum storage boxes, a company in Wagatah can make them.

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OK so maybe they're both jobs programs, but .mil is bigger and employs more people (almost certainly at a lower per capita cost).
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> OK so maybe they're both jobs programs, but .mil is bigger and employs more people

Which is a direct function of its budget not a function of what it does.

> (almost certainly at a lower per capita cost).

DoD is extremely expensive per job due to the longe term benefits, layers of bureaucracy, and sub contractors.

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Great. Can we change it to just be the non killing part for a few years until the bad project ideas fully die off?
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If anything, we've been letting the killing parts languish dangerously for decades - to the point where we may not be able to defend our allies in a serious conflict.
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As proven so well during this whole debacle in the Hormuz strait.
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Hard to see that as an indictment of military capability when it is so overwhelmingly a reflection of political incompetence.
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Hmmm, the US is not able to control the Hormuz strait. Iran decides who goes through it. Yesterday Iran shot at a vessel [0]. We can argue the semantics of “control” but I think this whole debacle showed the limits of US military power.

[0] https://www.npr.org/2026/06/26/nx-s1-5871963/un-agency-pause...

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Good thing you don't have that many allies left, so it should make the job easier.
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Hopefully we elect a sane executive next election so we can start figuring out how to keep the executive from fucking over our allies. We can make a lot more of our partnerships with allies into ratchet mechanisms that are far less easily undone.
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No it would obviously lose its purpose then.
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You could have a jobs program that builds infrastructure instead.
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That's where we got a whole lot of dams in the American West!
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Last that I checked, you guys could use some more trains.
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We have way more rail than the rest of the world. More than China, Russia, and the EU. We have almost 20% of the world’s total rail. But we prioritize freight instead of passenger service.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_rail_tran...

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The military budget is how the US enforces Bretton Woods. The jobs part is just a nice side-effect of any govt. spending.
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Bretton Woods was formally terminated in 1973.
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