I'm guessing you're not a linguist, and have no knowledge of academic linguistics.
Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.
~ https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.htmlBoth are discouraged, neither is great, the second following piling on and getting personal example is arguably worse.
The disappointing part (for myself at least) was a failure to be explicit in how they felt the lay / lie usage should go and in what English speaking domains the preferred usages are.