upvote
steam games don't have discs either

the real problem here isn't lack of plastic circles

reply
> steam games don't have discs either

Disc > Steam > Digital console

Steam games exist on physical media that players have some control over: I can copy my Steam data directory across PCs/Steam Deck, I would not be able to do that on a PlayStation.

Sure, I can't resell my Steam games, but the openness of the PC platform has advantages over closed consoles. Valve can't brick old games the way Sony can - a new computer in 2046 will be able to play single-player games backed-up from Steam, not so much for consoles.

reply
Yeah, but games get bigger and more frequent discounts on pc, besides the base game price for a lot of games sometimes decreased after some years.

I have a PC and PS5, and bought game for PS5 just because they were on disk, despite that they would've ran and look much better on my pc.

Sony is releasing like 2 single-player games a year, I might get a PS6, but I'll be in not rush with so little offering, anything else I'll get on PC.

reply
On PC you can fight this by buying from GOG DRM-free digital storefront or the second more sinister option
reply
Gog might consider linux more, which will make me reconsider it. I stopped buying from them because the lack of linux support
reply
Use something like Heroic Launcher which lets you easily download/install GOG games via Proton.
reply
Valve have shown themselves to be reasonably trustworthy unlike say, Sony and Microsoft. If there are no disks then there is no point in consoles in my view, they're just worse computers.
reply
Steam only exists because Valve forced players to install it, force an online activation, and permanently bind their retail copies of Half-Life 2 to a Steam account. They also forced patching which meant in an era of dialup you couldn't play your single player game for hours, and needed to be connected every 30 days or your game would stop working.

None of the console manufacturers pulled that shit, that Valve gets a pass is wild to me.

reply
They are the only platform owners championing for an open platform. That should be enough to consider them above all others, no trust required.
reply
plus, nothings stopping you from distributing a physical PC game. Heck, iirc steam still supports it. Even if it didn't, you could still buy a physical PC anyway since they can just have an exe, flatpak/snap/appimage, or dmg
reply
Can’t I back them to physical media?
reply
Steam normalized the loss of resale rights on PC long before the consoles caught up. Younger people don't even realize it's a right that prior generations gave up.
reply
and yet, Steam is seen as the superior service that deserves to keep their monopoly.
reply
The thing with Steam is that it's more convenient than piratebay, but for the collector in you, piratebay is still there for insurance.

Not to mention whatever's available on GoG where you don't even need a crack to make backups.

With Sony you have no insurance.

reply
Yes, and it's a tragedy that people have given up so much for the shallow convenience of having a shiny launcher and not having to figure out clicking on setup.exe.
reply
Steam isn't a monopoly, it's just a good service. Why would I use a shittier one created by, generally, extremely greedy and woke corporations?
reply
What do you mean woke corporations? How does that affect you?
reply
By politicizing games, ruining them with their agenda, and in a hundred other ways.
reply
Which games specifically were ruined? How were they ruined? Can you provide a single example and explain how it is woke and why it ruins the game?
reply
You have to be very dense to think AAA video game devs have some woke agenda and not just knee-jerk reaction to market changes. There are plenty of games for you to goon to.
reply
Steam has existed for an eternity compared to any console specific game store. It's not great that you can't resell what you have on Steam, but at least you get to 'keep' it.
reply
To solve what exactly? Sure you will punish Sony but that won't bring optical media back. We need to accept and move on with the times.
reply
It is still possible to actually buy PC games, not rent them.
reply
[dead]
reply
[dead]
reply
[dead]
reply