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by RandyOrion9 hours ago |
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upvoteby geocar9 hours ago|
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Google has been attempting to license the right to write.

There are a lot of poor people, mostly brown people, who do not have the ability to get one of these licenses.

Some of them are feeding themselves with their ability to write, and Google is literally stealing that food from their mouths.

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upvoteby duskdozer7 hours ago|
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I think this argument isn't likely to go far, considering its use of a type of condemned speech (DEI). Part of the purpose of having ID verification for developers is to ensure that Google can provide information to the authorities so that developers can be held accountable for promoting such anti-government and terroristic ideology.
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upvoteby birdsongs8 hours ago|
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Can I ask what you mean when you say "write"? Are you talking about literature / articles, or software?

This is new to me, want to stay on top of it.

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upvoteby MSFT_Edging7 hours ago|
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I think the commenter is alluding to writing software, as software is considered speech in some places.
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upvoteby like_any_other7 hours ago|
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Careful about demanding that dystopia not discriminate against anyone. Because you just might get it, and it'll still be a dystopia.
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upvoteby noosphr7 hours ago|
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upvoteby Forgeties796 hours ago|
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This is a textbook “bad faith” argument.

Just because someone is part of a particular demographic doesn’t mean they are suddenly incapable of harming them.

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upvoteby noosphr6 hours ago|
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You were so close to realizing class is the only thing that matters. But thankfully a good western education make that thought impossible.
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upvoteby lern_too_spel5 hours ago|
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Article got developer verification completely wrong. The point of developer verification is to be able to install apps outside the app store without warning, which brings Google Android builds in compliance with the antitrust ruling. Third party Android builds can choose other trust roots or disable ADV completely and require warnings for everything because they are not subject to the judgment.

Separately, the process of installing apps that are outside a system app store and aren't verified has also changed, but this is not required by the developer verification feature, and the result seems like a wash to me. The first time you enable installing apps from other sources is harder, but this setting then persists across device upgrades, so the subsequent times go away completely. This now requires developer mode, but apps that check developer mode (I haven't found any in the US) can be mollified with a Tasker task to disable developer mode when launching those apps and enable it again after.

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upvoteby troyvit4 hours ago|
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That's only the consumer side of it though. As the post states:

> Should a developer[...] elect to register themself with Google as a “verified” developer, they should expect to sign up for an account and pay a fee, surrender detailed personal information and upload government-issued identification, and then proceed to register the identifiers and signing keys for all the apps they intend to distribute (now or ever).

Those are big impediments to open development. The agreement developers sign states:

> 6.5 If You violate any of the Terms or if You distribute malware or other harmful applications, Google may terminate Your access to the ADC…

But they don't actually define "malware" anywhere in the document. Search HN if you want to hear horror stories about how google handles loose definitions and peoples' accounts.

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upvoteby lern_too_spel4 hours ago|
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This is no different from before. If you want consumers to be able to install your app without a warning on Google builds, you have to jump through verification hoops. The only thing that ADV changes for developers is that now they can distribute their apps outside the system app stores without a warning as well, which is a new benefit, not a new restriction.

The correct thing to complain about is requiring developer mode for unverified installs, which doesn't seem necessary, not ADV. If you complain about ADV, of course the legislators are going to ignore you. ADV makes Google builds strictly more open and resolves the complaints of the state.

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upvoteby troyvit3 hours ago|
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Oh man thank you for the clarification <3
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