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Are you talking about a 1950’s Vespa or a 2026 Vespa?

A modern 300cc four stroke Vespa will use 3.3 litres of fuel per 100km and Euro 5 means noise is quiet.

As far as things go, modern scooters are great, practical, economical vehicles.

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Euro5 also means >90% less exhaust fumes compared to Euro1 which was introduced 1999 iirc. The difference between a 1950 and 2026 Vespa must be huge.
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Great to know. It seems like most of the ones in notice in the are an older vintage and/or poorly maintained.
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Even the new ones are awfully loud.

But, yeah, they don't smell like the old ones thankfully

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> A modern 300cc four stroke Vespa will use 3.3 litres of fuel per 100km

Uh, I know motorcycle engines aren't particularly fuel-efficient (it's not a priority), but there seems to be, er, room for improvement.

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you can get some 125cc motorcycle/scooter and run on half that
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The electric range of Vespas are using the same iconic design.
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Taylor Swift just used how many tons to get married?
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And that's relevant how? If you live in a city where everyone owns a petrol scooter it's absurd. Can't wait for all of these to be electric, it's just common sense.
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my 2022 vespa gets over 65mpg and I don’t need to move 2,000 lbs of metal to get around. I assure you it is better for the world than driving an car.
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...have I suggested otherwise?
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When electric will be equally practical (recharge time, mileage) and accessible (we do not have electronic money).

And the noise pollition I hear coming from the electric to me is a million times worse than ICEs.

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What noise pollution do you hear from electric? You mean the noise cars make when they are backing up or what?
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Whether stinky bait, or just bad sarcasm, you’ll need to up your game, this is weak.
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> the noise pollition I hear coming from the electric to me is a million times worse than ICEs.

What are you talking about? The electric ones are significantly quieter.

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Electronic money? Electric vehicles are cheaper to operate long term.
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>>And the noise pollition I hear coming from the electric to me is a million times worse than ICEs.

Is this some kind of trolling?

>>accessible (we do not have electronic money).

And is this some kind of joke? An electric scooter can be plugged into a solar panel and recharged within a day. For free. Even if every oil refinery on earth explodes you will be able to charge your electric scooter by the wonderful power of the sun.

Unless you mean the cost to purchase - have you seen the cost of a new Vespa? You can have two electric scooters for the price of a new Vespa.

And electric scooters have long ago matched needs of city users in terms of range. Recharge time isn't as fast as petrol, sure, but people tend not to drive scooters for 500 miles in a day. You drive it to work, drive it back, plug it in. Or charge during the day using solar.

Or you know, for really crazy sci-fi ideas just look at china, where electric scooters with swappable batteries are extremely common. Even if you work as a food delivery driver you can have a fresh fully charged battery in less time than it would take you to fill up with petrol.

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Maybe because not everyone cares, while the planet gets destroyed with wars, private jets and AI centers?
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Noise pollution is a different issue than "saving the planet".
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That is only an issue when driving 50cc and applies to all of them, regardless of which kind of motorbike.

Or those that love "tuning" taking the noise filters out of the escapes.

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Yes, all of them are terrible and should have ceased to exist 10 years ago? Now is just the next best time. It won’t save the industry addicted to them of course, China has long gotten rid of them.
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Well, everything is doable when following the same kind of government based "education".

Also lets ignore drilling the planet for rare minerals in the process, that China owns.

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