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by vrganj4 hours ago |
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upvoteby vintermann3 hours ago|
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That's a completely backward way of seeing it. "Nations" want nothing. The EU council is obviously an EU institution, the institution least accountable to the people of the EU. They want it and force it through as best they can. The parliament, the EU institution most accountable to the people of the EU (not that it's saying much) tried to stop it.
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upvoteby vrganj2 hours ago|
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Of course Nations want this.

Who is in the Council? You are saying "nuh-uh", but not addressing any of the substance of my comment.

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upvoteby int_19h1 hours ago|
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The Council represents state governments, not nations. A nation consists of all the people in it, not just those who appointed themselves to speak on its behalf.
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upvoteby vrganj1 hours ago|
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... appoint themselves? You are aware how governments are chosen in all member states? Are you calling into question the democratic processes of national governments?

Either way, your issue is with national governments and not the EU, which curbs their excesses.

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upvoteby inglor_cz3 hours ago|
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"If not for the EU, a much worse version of this would already be law in the nation states."

In some, in some not. Not everyone is the UK. Many nations which had a totalitarian government in the 20th century are more wary about this sort of sweeping surveillance power.

The "charm" of pushing this through the circuitous path via Brussels is that few people and even few media outlets are paying attention to what happens in Brussels. Everyone is still obsessed with their national politics.

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upvoteby constantius1 hours ago|
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Exactly. As demonstrated by several countries pronouncing themselves against it every time this comes up.

If the government of Denmark really wants to implement this, let them, but the idea that a tiny country's officials, elected by a population of 6M that their media managed to convince of the utopia to come when privacy doesn't exist, manages to make another 450M in 26 countries comply to their will (not to call it delusion) is frightening.

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